Can a Flat Top that is 4 9/16" capped be a Senior?

One came to me that was called a Senior, but it's about the same length as the one I recently asked about here and mistakenly called a Junior.  I thought all Seniors were 5 1/4" capped?    

Thanks.

Tim

Hi,

The pen collectors generally call a Senior flat top is 9/16th wide across cap lip (outer edges) and yes usually about 5 1/4" long. On occasion a cap can close unduly low on barrel, but this would be pushing it no doubt. How wide is the pen?

regards

d

A senior would have to be full length - something in the 5 1/4 range.  There are full girth pens that are not seniors.  I can see you want something easy and I find that the codes are easy.  Sheaffer used codes early on and they aren't random so you may find it helpful.  For a black pen we have no color code so that keeps it real simple.  Senior is an 8C - large pen with a clip.  Assuming yours has a clip as you are just saying it is short we get 8SC - large short pen with a clip.  People get stuck on "senior" due to that being the most desired, generally, of all the sizes available.  Sheaffer generally has a theme of C, SC, and SR which would be Full sized (length) with clip, Short with clip and Short Ring Top (generally ring tops are all short).  There are several ranges of diameter which accompany distinct lines so there is not a universal code for a particular diameter.  T, 74, 46, 5-30, 22, 3-25 etc., are all thinner pens.  8's, Secretarys (RSecy models) and some 7-30's are the largest diameter so as long as they are full length they qualify as seniors or oversized.  So 5 1/4" long by .58" cap diameter is a senior.

Roger W.

thanks, Roger and David -- I'll measure the width from the office tomorrow. Pen is there.  

Much appreciated, as always.  

Tim

Hi,

I have been confused by the 'T' and '4' since I got the 1926 Catalog, it mentioned 'T' means thinner but '84' is also thinner with smaller radius point. From the picture, I will say 8 > T8 > 84, am I correct ?

'84' (I assumed the same as '74') come with smaller radius point ? How big is this '4' point compare to the Self Filing points ?

Any idea about the nib sizes in Flattop and Balance era compare to those in Self Filing ?

CC

Hi,

I have been confused by the 'T' and '4' since I got the 1926 Catalog, it mentioned 'T' means thinner but '84' is also thinner with smaller radius point. From the picture, I will say 8 > T8 > 84, am I correct ?

 

'84' (I assumed the same as '74') come with smaller radius point ? How big is this '4' point compare to the Self Filing points ?

 

Any idea about the nib sizes in Flattop and Balance era compare to those in Self Filing ?

 

CC

 

Off the top of my head on cap diameters 8 = .58" T = .55" and 4 = .52".  

 

Roger W.

Hi Roger,

Thanks for your clarifications...

CC