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#1 pen-deco

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 03:23 AM

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 03:49 AM

Yep. With a couple signs of being very early in the run. Kudos to those who can ID...

 

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 04:13 AM

Yep. With a couple signs of being very early in the run. Kudos to those who can ID...
 
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Many thanks to you, David!

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 04:07 PM

The plain arrow clip is the most obvious sign of being early. And maybe the pencil still has a chunky shape and is 1.1mm?

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 04:53 PM

The plain arrow clip is the most obvious sign of being early. And maybe the pencil still has a chunky shape and is 1.1mm?

 

More...

 

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 06:06 PM

Is it the taller tassie?  Lack of vertical line in the chevron band?



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Posted 10 September 2014 - 06:18 PM

Is it the taller tassie?  Lack of vertical line in the chevron band?

 

Excellent.

 

For the longest time, I had worried about being forever the youngest Very Serious Vac Collector. Good to see-- how did that movie say it (?)--  there is another. ;)

 

So, peek  at the butt end of the pen  and notice a triple-stack tassie. That tends to appear with the earliest of Majors and Slender Maximas, often associating with the vaunted "Vac-band", the cap-band containing  "Parker Vacumatic".

 

The  cap-band's pattern is ///\\\///      \\\////    with the cartouche for engraving surrounded by angled lines. Later cap-bands have vertical lines at the edges  ///\\\\///|       |\\\///\\\

 

Now it can get a bit tricky with Slender Max caps as I have suspicion that-- perhaps due to slow sales-- caps lingered at the plant, used with later barrel date code imprints than we find for Senior Maxima and Major.

Still, the triple stack tassie is a prime marker for great earliness.  I would not be surprised if the date code on barrel is 27 or 37.

 

I am overdue to review many pens to refresh myself as to when I believe in general the bracketed cartouche appeared, though I doubt before late 1938.

 

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Bonus Points: Besides early-ish (mid to mid-late 1937) Major and Slender Maxima, on what can one find that funky triple stack tassie?

 

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 06:29 PM

 

Is it the taller tassie?  Lack of vertical line in the chevron band?

 

Bonus Points: Besides early-ish (mid to mid-late 1937) Major and Slender Maxima, on what can one find that funky triple stack tassie?

 

 

I believe that would be the thermometer cases.  Unfortunately, I'm in need of one...



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Posted 10 September 2014 - 06:29 PM

 

 

Is it the taller tassie?  Lack of vertical line in the chevron band?

 

Bonus Points: Besides early-ish (mid to mid-late 1937) Major and Slender Maxima, on what can one find that funky triple stack tassie?

 

 

I believe that would be the thermometer cases.  Unfortunately, I'm in need of one...

 

 

Oh hell, I have spare Thermos...

Good on you for knowing the answer.

 

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 06:33 PM

 

 

 

Is it the taller tassie?  Lack of vertical line in the chevron band?

 

Bonus Points: Besides early-ish (mid to mid-late 1937) Major and Slender Maxima, on what can one find that funky triple stack tassie?

 

 

I believe that would be the thermometer cases.  Unfortunately, I'm in need of one...

 

 

Oh hell, I have spare Thermos...

Good on you for knowing the answer.

 

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Oh I don't need the whole thermometer case.  Just the tassie...



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Posted 10 September 2014 - 06:51 PM


Oh I don't need the whole thermometer case.  Just the tassie...

 


 

 

That will be tougher.

 

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 12:35 AM

 

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Bonus Points: Besides early-ish (mid to mid-late 1937) Major and Slender Maxima, on what can one find that funky triple stack tassie?

 

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David

 

 

That's really good to know. Thanks David.

 

Question. Did "Slender Maximas" exist before Parker had/called pens "Major"? I know some Slen Max's and Majors would have been interchangeable, but would this be the case with an earlier Slender Maxima?

 

I am pretty sure the earlier slender maximas were not interchangeable, but just clarifying.


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Posted 11 September 2014 - 12:39 AM

 

Is it the taller tassie?  Lack of vertical line in the chevron band?

 

Now it can get a bit tricky with Slender Max caps as I have suspicion that-- perhaps due to slow sales-- caps lingered at the plant, used with later barrel date code imprints than we find for Senior Maxima and Major.

Still, the triple stack tassie is a prime marker for great earliness.  I would not be surprised if the date code on barrel is 27 or 37.

 

 

 

I am not with my pens tonight, but will let you know. I'm 95% sure you're right on the money.

 

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 12:43 AM

 

 

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Bonus Points: Besides early-ish (mid to mid-late 1937) Major and Slender Maxima, on what can one find that funky triple stack tassie?

 

regards

 

David

 

 

That's really good to know. Thanks David.

 

Question. Did "Slender Maximas" exist before Parker had/called pens "Major"? I know some Slen Max's and Majors would have been interchangeable, but would this be the case with an earlier Slender Maxima?

 

I am pretty sure the earlier slender maximas were not interchangeable, but just clarifying.

 

 

 

Hi,

 

Slender Maxima and Major never are interchangeable, save in some cases for barrel alone, though some parts are size-compatible.

 

Three long-blindcap models were intro'd together in 1937.  Speedline Major, Speedline Maxima (Slender Maxima) and Senior Maxima.  Even if one prefers not to include "Speedline" as part of the earliest names for the three models, we have Major, Maxima and Senior Maxima.

 

Maxima eventually was renamed Slender Maxima

 

More problematic, Senior Maxima eventually was renamed just Maxima.

 

So,  "Maxima" can represent two different pens depending on year of issue.  It is best thus to use Major, Slender Maxima, and Senior Maxima for the three models, independent of date-code on pen.

 

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 12:45 AM

 

 

 

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Bonus Points: Besides early-ish (mid to mid-late 1937) Major and Slender Maxima, on what can one find that funky triple stack tassie?

 

regards

 

David

 

 

That's really good to know. Thanks David.

 

Question. Did "Slender Maximas" exist before Parker had/called pens "Major"? I know some Slen Max's and Majors would have been interchangeable, but would this be the case with an earlier Slender Maxima?

 

I am pretty sure the earlier slender maximas were not interchangeable, but just clarifying.

 

 

 

Hi,

 

Slender Maxima and Major never are interchangeable, save in some cases for barrel alone, though some parts are size-compatible.

 

Three long-blindcap models were intro'd together in 1937.  Speedline Major, Speedline Maxima (Slender Maxima) and Senior Maxima.  Even if one prefers not to include "Speedline" as part of the earliest names for the three models, we have Major, Maxima and Senior Maxima.

 

Maxima eventually was renamed Slender Maxima

 

More problematic, Senior Maxima eventually was renamed just Maxima.

 

So,  "Maxima" can represent two different pens depending on year of issue.  It is best thus to use Major, Slender Maxima, and Senior Maxima for the three models, independent of date-code on pen.

 

regards

 

david

 

 

Ok, that makes more sense. Thank you. I shouldn't have used interchangeable, but size capable is a better way to put it.


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Posted 11 September 2014 - 12:46 AM

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 12:49 AM

Another GALLERY success story :)

 

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Posted 12 September 2014 - 01:17 AM

Ok. Took a few shots. David is on the money with a 37 DC.

 

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Posted 12 September 2014 - 01:22 AM

Vac collecting is fun :)

 

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Posted 12 September 2014 - 03:48 AM

Great fun.




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