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[June H]

I have just found this pen in the wilds of BC. I think it is from 1961. As the antique stores seem to be closing here I was very happy to see this pen and be able to grab it.. I have never seen this particular pen before with this cap. Odd that. I think BCites like black more. I have several in black and a set in burgundy but none of these have this cap.

[david i]

I have just found this pen in the wilds of BC. I think it is from 1961. As the antique stores seem to be closing here I was very happy to see this pen and be able to grab it.. I have never seen this particular pen before with this cap. Odd that. I think BCites like black more. I have several in black and a set in burgundy but none of these have this cap.

Nice pen, June.

I have, somewhere, a quality 1963-ish catalogue from Sheaffer (heavy laminated pages) that shows most of the Imperial (and related series) levels. These pens often have been viewed as the poor brothers to Pen For Men (PFM), but some cost more than PFM, an all-gold Masterpiece model was made, and the pen had a much longer run. Sheaffer even treated the pen to some rather charming packaging. Today, these seem finally to be coming into their own.

Here is a shot of a set. Slightly less fancy model. But, beautifully packaged.

regards

David

[June H]

Nice pen, June.

I have, somewhere, a quality 1963-ish catalogue from Sheaffer (heavy laminated pages) that shows most of the Imperial (and related series) levels. These pens often have been viewed as the poor brothers to Pen For Men (PFM), but some cost more than PFM, an all-gold Masterpiece model was made, and the pen had a much longer run. Sheaffer even treated the pen to some rather charming packaging. Today, these seem finally to be coming into their own.

Here is a shot of a set. Slightly less fancy model. But, beautifully packaged.

regards

David

Thanks for the picture. Lovely set. You seem to get all the fancy ones with the very wide bands. Something I never see. The odd thing about the imperial IV is that in the same couple of weeks I found a black PFM with the same cap. In working condition.Quite a fancy cap. What's with the brass or gold end on the barrel?

[david i]

Thanks for the picture. Lovely set. You seem to get all the fancy ones with the very wide bands. Something I never see. The odd thing about the imperial IV is that in the same couple of weeks I found a black PFM with the same cap. In working condition.Quite a fancy cap. What's with the brass or gold end on the barrel?

Hi June,

The PFM IV (Pen For Men 4) had the similar cap- polished steel with gold tone lip. Not quite the most expensive in the day, today it tends to be more valuable than the gold-filled-cap PFM V (originally more expensive) as it is less scarce. You found a nice pen, if you found aPFM IV

The PFM IV and V had gold-tone (plated, maybe filled) at bottom ofbarrel. Just one more thing to make parts swaps more challenging to collectors

regards

David

[June H]

Hi June,

The PFM IV (Pen For Men 4) had the similar cap- polished steel with gold tone lip. Not quite the most expensive in the day, today it tends to be more valuable than the gold-filled-cap PFM V (originally more expensive) as it is less scarce. You found a nice pen, if you found aPFM IV

The PFM IV and V had gold-tone (plated, maybe filled) at bottom ofbarrel. Just one more thing to make parts swaps more challenging to collectors

regards

David

Sorry, I thought I had inserted the picture of my Sheaffer PFM IV. I am not sure why I have thumbnails and your pictures are so lovely and large

[Admin]

Sorry, I thought I had inserted the picture of my Sheaffer PFM IV. I am not sure why I have thumbnails and your pictures are so lovely and large

Hi,

Apparently, pics uploaded to FPB from your computer will show as thumbnails (they expand nicely if clicked), while images externally hosted (linked to) are shown more or less full size.

[June H]

I get the feeling from David that all PFM pens may not be correct. I have been reading the Pennant summer 2002 page 12 article. It is suggesting that black PFM came in 2 colour codes. How does one know which one they have. Black L and Black 11. What should I be looking at to tell if my pen is correct. Is there suppose be some markings on the pen to suggest this?

I can't get the multiquote to work. I must doing something wrong.

[Hugh]

The pen in the OP is an Imperial VI, not a IV. The Imperial IV compares with the PFM III , The Imp. VI with the PFM IV and the Imp. VIII with the PFM V. in trim terms (how Sheaffer logic came up with this...). These where all touchdown fillers, I suspect Davids one is a c/c.

Regards
Hugh

[June H]

The pen in the OP is an Imperial VI, not a IV. The Imperial IV compares with the PFM III , The Imp. VI with the PFM IV and the Imp. VIII with the PFM V. in trim terms (how Sheaffer logic came up with this...). These where all touchdown fillers, I suspect Davids one is a c/c.

Regards
Hugh