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#1 david i

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Posted 26 September 2011 - 03:19 AM

For your consideration, a Sheaffer Snorkel Triumph (conical) nib.

For some here, the key special feature will be obvious. For others readers, perhaps not so obvious.

Worth knowing though.

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Posted 26 September 2011 - 04:12 AM

Looks like a stub nib. Flexible, too?

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Posted 26 September 2011 - 05:27 AM

There are no grooves in the metal separating the gold tone from the silver tone. I noticed this on my open snorkel flex nib. Does that make this a flexible triumph nib?

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Posted 26 September 2011 - 06:05 AM

Looks like a stub nib. Flexible, too?

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I mean broad and flexible.

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Posted 26 September 2011 - 06:06 AM

There are no grooves in the metal separating the gold tone from the silver tone. I noticed this on my open snorkel flex nib. Does that make this a flexible triumph nib?


Gents,

Yep a flex, as indicated by the two ton nib with no stamped divider between the two colors. A clue.

Tipping can be tough to call at odd angles. Believe this was medium, but cannot recall. The key though is that two tone variant, indicating flex.

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Posted 26 September 2011 - 06:43 AM

For your consideration, a Sheaffer Snorkel Triumph (conical) nib.

For some here, the key special feature will be obvious. For others readers, perhaps not so obvious.

Worth knowing though.

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David


Just wondering if this nib was deliberately cut left of centre, rather than 'smack bang' in the middle of the hole?
I have read the other posts, and wondered about the smooth transition of the two-tone nib also, but only have one Sheaffer nib with the two-tone, and different to this I believe.

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Posted 18 March 2012 - 10:29 PM

Thought I'd add to the Sheaffer Snorkel nib eye candy thread, rather than starting a new thread.

Given that my involvement with Snorkel was largely by accident, I remain a bit amazed and a tad bemused at my degree of involvement. So it goes.

This one crossed my desk recently. A fully marked flex nib in a black Saratoga. This one is more flexible than some of this sort I've handled.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 09:46 AM

I am still looking for a snorkel Flex Triumph nib, is no stamped divider between 2 tones the characteristic ?

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 12:48 PM

Yes, but let's not forget that there were also many Palladium snorkel flex Triumph nibs!

I am lucky enough to own 3-4 examples.

Edited by Jim B, 26 March 2012 - 12:49 PM.


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Posted 27 March 2012 - 03:20 PM

I have a few of these and a long time collector told me about this "missing" attribute. Was there ever any vintage literature about this? I am sure there is something laying around that would show this feature. Would love to know!

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 03:22 PM

I have a few of these and a long time collector told me about this "missing" attribute. Was there ever any vintage literature about this? I am sure there is something laying around that would show this feature. Would love to know!

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Hi Greg,

I know of no company literature citing the lack of stamped line on flex Sheaffer nibs (that otherwise would have that line) starting it seems in the 1940's and running through the Snork era. I would be interested to see anything of that sort. Of note, I am fond of flex Sheaffer nibs. If you indeed still have a few of 'em lying about... we should talk. :)

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 04:23 PM

Yes, but let's not forget that there were also many Palladium snorkel flex Triumph nibs!

I am lucky enough to own 3-4 examples.



Hi Jim/Greg,
I am jealous, I only have one Flex Triumph which is Palladium but never own any gold Flex Triumph nib :(

BTW my Palladium Flex Triumph shows clear divider lines.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 10:30 PM

Interesting that CC's nib has clear divider lines, one of my Aust. snorks with a broad/ stub type nib ( gold triumph) has the divider lines and some flex ( no where near as much as the OP nib), but way more than any other TM TD or Snork I've got. It's a bit deceiving though because with a broad nib the variation doesn't look as great as if it was , say, a fine.

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 01:21 PM

This thread made me go and review my 5 flexible and 2 music nibs.

Interestingly all of the 5 Flexible nibs are solid colors ( no 2 tone) with no lines whatsoever. 3 of them are palladium silver triumphs: xf,m, stub. The other is a solid 14k gold triumph xf. The open nib is also a 14k solid gold with no lines.

The 2 music nibs are both 2 tone. interestingly the flexible one has no incised line and the "normal" one does. They are both open nibs.

Must try to find time to put up photos.

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 07:58 PM

So here is a bad photo of my normal and flexible Music nibs illustrating the groove or lack thereof.
FLEXI ON THE LEFT, NORMAL (WITH GROOVE) ON THE RIGHT.

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 11:29 AM

Interesting that CC's nib has clear divider lines, one of my Aust. snorks with a broad/ stub type nib ( gold triumph) has the divider lines and some flex ( no where near as much as the OP nib), but way more than any other TM TD or Snork I've got. It's a bit deceiving though because with a broad nib the variation doesn't look as great as if it was , say, a fine.

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Hi Hugh,
May be I am wrong because my Flex Palladium doesn't shown any marking to confirm it is a flex nib, but it is much flex than the other snorkel nibs, so I assumed it is Flex :P

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Posted 03 April 2012 - 01:03 PM

Very interesting stuff fellows.Lots of things i did not know.

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Posted 03 April 2012 - 01:05 PM

So here is a bad photo of my normal and flexible Music nibs illustrating the groove or lack thereof.
FLEXI ON THE LEFT, NORMAL (WITH GROOVE) ON THE RIGHT.

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Why were these called Music nibs?From the photo it would appear they have two ink lines instead of the usual one.Is this correct?

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Posted 03 April 2012 - 04:25 PM


So here is a bad photo of my normal and flexible Music nibs illustrating the groove or lack thereof.
FLEXI ON THE LEFT, NORMAL (WITH GROOVE) ON THE RIGHT.

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Why were these called Music nibs?From the photo it would appear they have two ink lines instead of the usual one.Is this correct?


The two slit music nib tradition goes way, way back. A music nib is a very broad stub or italic nib. Think of it as two broad stub dip pens combined into one (which perhaps reveals it's origin). The extra wide point nicely facilitates musical notation and the twin channels supply the extra flow for a wide line.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 12:12 AM

Thank-you for that information,Teej47.




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