Esterbrooks I Never Intended
Started by BrianMcQueen, Apr 17 2012 05:15 AM
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Posted 17 April 2012 - 09:53 PM
LOL!
Yeah, Esties have a way of growing on you!!
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Posted 15 August 2012 - 10:14 PM
I really enjoy my Esties and think they were, and are, great pens. It seems easy to put them down but I think they have a classic styling, from the Dollars and Transitionals to the J-Series and even though I have several I find I am still drawn to them when they come up for sale. There is just something about them... 
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Posted 08 December 2012 - 02:37 PM
I have a transitional J Estie all black with a new sac. It was picked up over the internet and sold to me from a collector in Minnesota. The nib is a 9668 and is a good daily writer. The pen is not as wet as I would like and it could use a nib pinch to loosen up the ink flow but I am reluctant to tune the nib until I break it in and see if it sorts itself out with a bit of use.
Rob Maguire (Call me M or Mags) I use a fountain pen and a blackberry playbook.
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Posted 28 April 2013 - 11:33 AM
For those who do not normally visit the Europe forum, please note I have recently put up over there scans of a British 1936 Esterbrook Relief Christmas leaflet (pens made by Conway Stewart), this may be of interest to some reading this topic.
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Posted 02 May 2013 - 05:23 AM
For those who do not normally visit the Europe forum, please note I have recently put up over there scans of a British 1936 Esterbrook Relief Christmas leaflet (pens made by Conway Stewart), this may be of interest to some reading this topic.
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Hi Andy
Have a look at my gallery picture: the pencil and SJ are Made in England, the J in USA. It hasn't come out well in the photo but the English items have a slightly darker and more lustrous appearance.
Do you know if these would have been made by CS also?
I love the great variety of Esterbrook nibs and their interchangeablilty with Osmiroids. I have a 9314B in the green J and it is an absolute delight to write with.
Cheers
John
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Posted 02 May 2013 - 07:56 AM
Hi John,
You raise an interesting point and in short, I can't be absolutely certain.
I would think the answer is that they were NOT produced by CS because the styles and materials are so unlike any other CS products. CS did continue to produce Relief pens until the mid 1950s, though these later pens are just rebadged versions of their standard products.
I'm no Esterbrook expert but my thoughts are as follows. I understand the J series pens are of the 1940s - this was a time of war followed by many years of rationing and difficulties in obtaining materials in England. I would say it was much more likely that these pens were assembled in the UK from parts imported from the USA. Esterbrook & their UK distributor, Hazell, Watson & Viney did have a UK factory available at Aylesbury (facts courtesy of Steve Hull's 'English Fountain Pen Industry') and assembling the pens from parts in this country would allow them to legitimately claim that these pens were 'Made in England' which would have been especially important at that time. I also feel the same would apply to the 66 & 90 pens from the 1938 advertisement - though nothing about them has the 'feel' of a Conway Stewart product, it is still possible they could have been produced for Esterbrook by another UK manufacturer.
Andy.
You raise an interesting point and in short, I can't be absolutely certain.
I would think the answer is that they were NOT produced by CS because the styles and materials are so unlike any other CS products. CS did continue to produce Relief pens until the mid 1950s, though these later pens are just rebadged versions of their standard products.
I'm no Esterbrook expert but my thoughts are as follows. I understand the J series pens are of the 1940s - this was a time of war followed by many years of rationing and difficulties in obtaining materials in England. I would say it was much more likely that these pens were assembled in the UK from parts imported from the USA. Esterbrook & their UK distributor, Hazell, Watson & Viney did have a UK factory available at Aylesbury (facts courtesy of Steve Hull's 'English Fountain Pen Industry') and assembling the pens from parts in this country would allow them to legitimately claim that these pens were 'Made in England' which would have been especially important at that time. I also feel the same would apply to the 66 & 90 pens from the 1938 advertisement - though nothing about them has the 'feel' of a Conway Stewart product, it is still possible they could have been produced for Esterbrook by another UK manufacturer.
Andy.
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