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#1 david i

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 03:51 AM

Traveler was a third tier pen label. Plated nib. Cheap trim. But, some pretty plastics often in very hefty pens.

I don't seek 'em.

But, I couldn't turn down this one. Another find from the Washington DC Pen Show August 2012. The price band and great condition (for this sort) didn't hurt.

Anything... interesting?

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#2 brando090

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 04:25 AM

David,

It's unique to say the least, very nice material, and the NOS doesn't hurt Posted Image Here is one i sold a while back, nothing comes close to yours, as mine is missing the cap band. This pen is hard to photograph because of the double stamped logo.

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 04:28 AM

David,

It's unique to say the least, very nice material, and the NOS doesn't hurt Posted Image Here is one i sold a while back, nothing comes close to yours, as mine is missing the cap band. This pen is hard to photograph because of the double stamped logo.

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Brando;

It isn't the make it is the plastic...

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 04:31 AM

As noted by Roger, is it an exact match or just close? I have seen other nth tier name in similar material.

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 04:39 AM

As noted by Roger, is it an exact match or just close? I have seen other nth tier name in similar material.




Hi Todd,

We're getting there. I believe the plastic is exact.

But, there is a bit more to the connection than just "other nth tier name", although maybe not, depending on how one defines certain words ;)

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 05:16 AM

Lahn, as in Sheaffer sub-brands....

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 05:56 AM

looks to be the candy-stripe plastic found in valentine (and some vacumatic) pens.
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Posted 30 August 2012 - 07:04 PM

I also have seen that plastic with other low level names. May even have an example or 2 in my wee collection, will hafta look!
The "plastic Jobber" must have been quite successful when making the rounds.


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Posted 30 August 2012 - 10:32 PM

Hi,

Not the plastic of Valentine or Parker Victory or of the rare candy-mesh Parker Vacumatics from England though there is a similarity in the presence of multi-layer lines. The plastic in the Traveler additionally has metallic gold threads deep in the plastic.

I have seen a no-name (possibly it was in fact a Traveler again) Combo in brown plastic of this sort, and would thus not be shocked if other low/no-name pens had it here and there. But, that's not its claim to fame ;)



The plastic indeed is the Lahn pattern, as used on Sheaffer sub-brand pens . Having found that name by Sheaffer is one of my few claims to frank discovery within pendom.

Here are a couple images of Sheaffer sub-brand pens in that plastic. I'm overdue to do a review of Lahn.

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 10:34 PM

Couple Lahn threads here:


http://fountainpenbo...n-lahn-plastic/

http://fountainpenbo...und-in-da-wild/

Univer of course is one of the Sheaffer sub-brands.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 12:35 AM

Pretty cool pen. Any background on the Traveler pens in general? Like where they were made?

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 01:17 AM

Pretty cool pen. Any background on the Traveler pens in general? Like where they were made?


Traveler as i know was a third tier pen company, and was American made as it was a sub-tier brand of Sheaffer.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 01:44 AM

Traveler as i know was a third tier pen company, and was American made as it was a sub-tier brand of Sheaffer.


While I agree (allowing some parsing of jargon) that Traveler was a third tier label (weak trim, plated nib), I do invite presentation of any evidence you have for a linkage to Sheaffer, as I've never seen any.

I've never heard of any connection of that sort, but would be happy to learn otherwise.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 02:45 AM


Traveler as i know was a third tier pen company, and was American made as it was a sub-tier brand of Sheaffer.


While I agree (allowing some parsing of jargon) that Traveler was a third tier label (weak trim, plated nib), I do invite presentation of any evidence you have for a linkage to Sheaffer, as I've never seen any.

I've never heard of any connection of that sort, but would be happy to learn otherwise.

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Just summarizing what matt said.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 02:54 AM

Just summarizing what matt said.




That's not what Matt said. And that's a stretch for "Traveler as I know" claims.

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#16 Jon Veley

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 03:06 AM

Travelers Pen Company, Inc., 458 Broadway, New York, NY.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 03:27 AM

Travelers Pen Company, Inc., 458 Broadway, New York, NY.



Interesting. Thanks, Jon.
Any other tidbits about Travelers Pen Company out there? Were they stand-alone? Was the Broadway address a Corporate one or actual manufacturing? Obviously, I'm not familiar with NYC by any stretch of the imagination.

Now where's the LIKE button on this thing.....

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#18 david i

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 04:31 AM

Now where's the LIKE button on this thing.....



Think it was disabled way back when. Want folks to "vote" with their comments. This is a discussion forum, not the frakkin' Roman Coliseum... or Facebook Posted Image

But, this is proving to be an engaging thread. And, I am overdue to put back together my Lahn essay...

MIke, you really need to join us for a Janesville Pen Club meeting.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 03:45 PM

Lahn (or lame) is a flattened tinsel wire which was produced primarily in Germany or France and subject to various tariffs in the early 1900's. Definitions here:

http://www.google.co...p2hcro_09jiKIcw

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 12:45 AM

:lol:

MIke, you really need to join us for a Janesville Pen Club meeting.


I plan to. I'm only in Wisconsin about once a quarter so I try to plan it best I can. I'm at the mercy of those incessant customers who insist on buying something from me when I work my day job. :rolleyes:
I doubt I'll be able to make a weekend gathering so it will have to be somewhat short notice.


Lahn (or lame) is a flattened tinsel wire which was produced primarily in Germany or France and subject to various tariffs in the early 1900's. Definitions here:

http://www.google.co...p2hcro_09jiKIcw


Matt, this is very familiar. I think we've been down this road before:unsure: but there might be readers who haven't been subjected to David's Lahn teaser. :lol: Good that you brought it up as I'd forgotten the history of the word.

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