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[brando090]

Through seeing many Waterman's in silver. ive never seen a 452 in smooth silver like this looks to be.

http://www.ebay.com/...utorefresh=true

Can anyone add to the scarcity of this model with a smooth overlay, along with possible value.

[FarmBoy]

The market seems to have settled in on just over 300 as the value. BUT we should be cautious using a single data point from a low activity eBay seller as a market report. I'm working from a portable Apple device but the cap seems to be patterned. The somewhat hyperbolic description was a fun read.

[david i]

The market seems to have settled in on just over 300 as the value. BUT we should be cautious using a single data point from a low activity eBay seller as a market report. I'm working from a portable Apple device but the cap seems to be patterned. The somewhat hyperbolic description was a fun read.

The model was mislabeled, the description is lmited, the photos are abysmal.

Limited value to the ad.

-d

[brando090]

Thank you, and sadly just wanted to remind this isn't a deal thread or anything like that. I thought it may of been a smooth overlay, and yes it's a 452 which was labeled a 1/2 model in the title, which really caught me off guard. The photo's are really bad, but still a cool thought if the pen is out there of a smooth silver 452. Looking forward to the app, how long of a duration would the app look over?

[Procyon]

Thank you, and sadly just wanted to remind this isn't a deal thread or anything like that. I thought it may of been a smooth overlay, and yes it's a 452 which was labeled a 1/2 model in the title, which really caught me off guard. The photo's are really bad, but still a cool thought if the pen is out there of a smooth silver 452. Looking forward to the app, how long of a duration would the app look over?

Good Lord! How many times? Pay Attention!

MIT ? You can't be serious.


BTW, you are also wrong in your following statement. It was a 452 1/2 that was labeled a 452 1/2V in the title.

Edited by Procyon, 12 October 2012 - 03:11 AM.

[brando090]

Thank you, and sadly just wanted to remind this isn't a deal thread or anything like that. I thought it may of been a smooth overlay, and yes it's a 452 which was labeled a 1/2 model in the title, which really caught me off guard. The photo's are really bad, but still a cool thought if the pen is out there of a smooth silver 452. Looking forward to the app, how long of a duration would the app look over?

Good Lord! How many times? Pay Attention!

MIT ? You can't be serious.


BTW, you are also wrong in your following statement. It was a 452 1/2 that was labeled a 452 1/2V in the title.

Im sorry, i was asking a broad question. I dont want another one of those threads.

[david i]

Im sorry, i was asking a broad question. I dont want another one of those threads.

His comment largely was focused on grammar. Whether his point was small or not, he was not commenting on the pen or merit of the pen question. Nothing wrong with the pen question, though as I noted, the ebay ad is somewhat limited in its own presentation. Yeah, maybe its a bit snarky to keep poking at awful grammar, but-- again-- how one writes speaks to how he thinks. Spending 10% more time on each post before posting would not be a bad thing. Too, again, I suggest you buy Strunk and White, and Word Power Made Easy. Seriously, half the hours spent the next year with those two books that you are now spending on pens now will do more to improve your future prospects and career opportunities than you likely can imagine.

regards

d

[david i]

Regarding the Waterman, offhand I do not have a perfect answer.

There is no harm in not knowing exactly the model number of a pen seen.

There is a ring top 452 1/2V that essentially is smooth save for a single decorative pattern or scroll or some such. I'm not sure it was done as full length 452. I'm not sure the pen in the ebay ad is fully smooth, at least based on the blurry pic. I have had fully smooth solid gold 552 1/2v and smooth gold filled 0552 1/2V. Not sure about fully smooth in silver. I have some catalogues (and you should join and browse the PCA library which has more Waterman catalogues than any sales site) and have the old Tifft guide, but cannot look today.

regards

d

[Procyon]

I don't recall seeing one personally, but there is a picture of a smooth sterling silver 452 in Davis and Lehrer's book. That probably indicates that there was a 452 1/2 also. From the pictures in this auction, I can't tell if the pen is smooth or not.

I have also seen gold-filled smooth 0552 and a solid gold 552 1/2 smooth pen. Seems like the solid gold often is in the narrower size - to minimize the amount of metal used.

[brando090]

Im sorry, i was asking a broad question. I dont want another one of those threads.

His comment largely was focused on grammar. Whether his point was small or not, he was not commenting on the pen or merit of the pen question. Nothing wrong with the pen question, though as I noted, the ebay ad is somewhat limited in its own presentation. Yeah, maybe its a bit snarky to keep poking at awful grammar, but-- again-- how one writes speaks to how he thinks. Spending 10% more time on each post before posting would not be a bad thing. Too, again, I suggest you buy Strunk and White, and Word Power Made Easy. Seriously, half the hours spent the next year with those two books that you are now spending on pens now will do more to improve your future prospects and career opportunities than you likely can imagine.

regards

d

Thank you,

Ill add those two to my to buy book list. Looking back at my first post, what was i thinking when i typed that.

[FarmBoy]

Im sorry, i was asking a broad question. I dont want another one of those threads.

His comment largely was focused on grammar. Whether his point was small or not, he was not commenting on the pen or merit of the pen question. Nothing wrong with the pen question, though as I noted, the ebay ad is somewhat limited in its own presentation. Yeah, maybe its a bit snarky to keep poking at awful grammar, but-- again-- how one writes speaks to how he thinks. Spending 10% more time on each post before posting would not be a bad thing. Too, again, I suggest you buy Strunk and White, and Word Power Made Easy. Seriously, half the hours spent the next year with those two books that you are now spending on pens now will do more to improve your future prospects and career opportunities than you likely can imagine.

regards

d

Thank you,

Ill add those two to my to buy book list. Looking back at my first post, what was i thinking when i typed that.

If you were a bit older you could claim a 'senior moment'.