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[penmanila]

i generally don't go for small pens, but this one came up on ebay early this morning with a very reasonable BIN price, and it was too cute and too clean to pass up:







it's no longer that small when the cap screws on to the barrel!

http://www.ebay.com/...cvip=true&rt=nc

Edited by penmanila, 24 August 2013 - 02:39 AM.

[philm]

Very nice find, and at a nice price point! I do not know what they were originally marketed as, but now are called long/shorts by some collectors. I have an off/yellow patterned Diamond Point. Other makers existed and I have a similar sized bulb filler no name that I have in my repair queue. Recently Bexley produced one which is similarly styled, though a little bit larger.

Phil

[Rocco P]

Nice pen at a good price.
I'll show my ignorance by asking whether there were any from the four major manufactures? Or was the long/short configuration used only by the minor players?

[Jon Veley]

What a coincidence! Just a day before you posted this, I posted the matching pencil over at the Leadhead's Pencil Blog. I misidentified it as being made by National - guess I'll be doing a follow up on this one!

[penmanila]

just saw that entry. great blog, jon, and great detective work on that guild pencil!

What a coincidence! Just a day before you posted this, I posted the matching pencil over at the Leadhead's Pencil Blog. I misidentified it as being made by National - guess I'll be doing a follow up on this one!

[david i]

I might have a couple faded examples lying about, but the best of these I've handled I shot at a pen show years ago, a Diamond Point done in Chilton's Carnelian celluloid

regards

david

[Jim B]

yup, I still have that Diamond Point David.

[John Danza]

Nice pen at a good price.
I'll show my ignorance by asking whether there were any from the four major manufactures? Or was the long/short configuration used only by the minor players?

Parker made the model 70 S Jack Knife Safety. It's a short pen covered with a GF overlay, and it telescopes open to make it more of a normal size. I don't have one in the collection yet but below is the 1918 catlog page showing the pen.

[Rocco P]

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Parker made the model 70 S Jack Knife Safety. It's a short pen covered with a GF overlay, and it telescopes open to make it more of a normal size. I don't have one in the collection yet but below is the 1918 catlog page showing the pen.

Thanks.

Now that would be a nice pen to have, though undoubtedly well beyond my price limit. I imagine it's very scarce?

[John Danza]

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Parker made the model 70 S Jack Knife Safety. It's a short pen covered with a GF overlay, and it telescopes open to make it more of a normal size. I don't have one in the collection yet but below is the 1918 catlog page showing the pen.

Thanks.

Now that would be a nice pen to have, though undoubtedly well beyond my price limit. I imagine it's very scarce?

Not scarce, but more like elusive. The trick is to find a nice one without a dent or dink in the rounded part at the end, which is why I don't have one yet. The ones that pop up always seem to have a dent.

[David Nishimura]

Very nifty pen, the telescoping Parker -- and actually quite rare, though it is less apparent since a small cluster turned up in recent years (virtually none showed up for many years previously).

The Parker, however, is really an interloper here, as it is not a longshort.
Longshort pens are defined by their extra-long caps, which when closed largely envelop the barrel. Among the earliest and best known are the Mabie Todd Longshort stylos. Perhaps the most recent are the Pilots from the 1960s through '80s (though I'm not so up on modern pens myself).

best

David

[BrianMcQueen]

I saw the auction for the pen in the Original Post, but it was a bit more than I was willing to pay for it. It certainly seems to be worth the 85 paid for it, but I would have only given about 50 given my collecting focus is elsewhere. That said, I'm glad it went to a nice home because it seems to be a really nifty pen!

[David Nishimura]

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A very unusual John Holland longshort thumb filler.

Edited by David Nishimura, 28 August 2013 - 06:58 PM.

[Shadow Wave]

A very unusual John Holland longshort thumb filler.

Interesting -- when do you think that dates from, 1915-ish?