12 replies to this topic

[piscov]

Hi there,

 

I recently bought this pen in along side with some more pens.  It is the only picture I have for now and unfortunately it is not good, but looks to be yellow or beige and the clip is not showing.

 

To my untrained eyes it looks to be a aerometric P51 in a strange color, am I correct?

 

 

Best

 

Vasco

 

 

[david i]

Hi Vasco,

Could it be a Parker 41?

 

regards

 

david

[Jos]

The colour looks strange indeed, at least on the picture. Could it be an over-exposed photo of a dove grey 51? Or cocoa?

The cap surely seems to be a P51 cap.

 

Could also be a "fantasy" 51 barrel?

 

 

[matt]

Difficult to tell in the photo, but the clutch ring looks more 21 Super-ish than 51-ish.  I tried a 51 cap on my only 41.  The 51 window clutch doesn't fit over the 41 clutch ring.  41 has the 3-piece clutch ring found on the (early?) 21 Super; those pens have no cap clutch.  But the 41 has a 51 clip and a black jewel.  The lustraloy cap has a bright, lightly brushed finish and "41" below the clip.  Filler cover on mine says "Parker 41...use Parker ink." 

[piscov]

I also consider the possibility of being a Parker look alike / copy from another European brand. I guess only when it arrives it will be possible to be sure of what it is....

I will update here once I get it.

 

 

Thank you David, Jos and matt!

 

Best

 

Vasco 

[Widget]

There is an E Bay sell 'redrocket' who has started making 51 barrels and hoods.  He puts them on original parts.  I know he has sold a yellow and several other colours including orange and fuchsia.  He states clearly the hood and barrels are new but I don't know if they are marked 'repro,' as I have never purchased 1.

Edited by Widget, 16 November 2013 - 08:39 AM.

[piscov]

Hi Widget thank you!,

 

I believe this should not be the case. I bougth this pens to someone that is not a pen fan or expert and that has those pens for a long time. I am more inclined to a Parker copy cat from an old manufacturer or to a real Parker 51/41/21 with a bad picture, Keeping my fingers crossed as I like that color!!

 

Best

 

Vasco

Edited by piscov, 16 November 2013 - 09:43 AM.

[Widget]

Vasco  I don't for 1 minute think it is from 'red rocket'.  He charges £69.95 per pen and he's managing to sell a few.  I just thought if he manages to make hoods and barrels in the UK then someone else could have done the same in the past.

[piscov]

Thanks Widget, I am eager to receive it and find out if my shoot in the dark was wise or not I will post pictures here.

 

I am in good mood so I waiting that  I can sing this song once I receive it!!

 

 

[matt]

Based on the bright silver color of the clutch ring compared to the cap and clip, I would bet on a grey 51 with a GF cap.

[pajaro]

The barrel and hood color are reminiscient of a Kullock 51 "cocoa" barrel and hood, which have always looked like pale beige to me.

[Norm]

I think he should call them Ovaltine instead of cocoa:)

[piscov]

It turns out it is a Hartman. I have no information about Hartman, so if any of you guys has heard of it and could share it here I would appreciate.

 

Some time we gamble and the bet does not pay...

 

The pens looks like a copy of the aerometric P51, with a different section.

 

Here are some pictures.