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[labeo]

Hi to all,

 

PMAUCTION www.pmauction.net is a brand new and powerfull ebay alternative for all fountain pen collector and professional seller or dealer with very low fees of 3% on sold items.

 

Most option and service are totally free:

 

Free reserve price (no fees)

Free buy it nowprice (no fees)

Free buy it now with make and offer option (no fees)
Up to 24 free images fo auction (no fees)

 

Automatic autorelist for unsold item

 

Free item feautiring as:  

 

Home Page Featured (no fees)

Category Pages Featured (no fees)  

Highlighted Item (no fees)

Bolded Item (no fees)

 

Free store no fees setup, no fees upgrade, no monthly fees.

 

Custom auction duration 1 day, 3 days, 7 days (standard), 14 days, 28 days, 56 days (no duration fees).

 

Jump to www.pmauction.net and keep and eye to the first auction and open store.

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Edited by Pennamania.it, 07 January 2014 - 05:53 PM.

[Paul M]

A quick look at the 'about us' area is enough to put me off. It tells me nothing about who is behind this venture, but it does state that they will automatically apply a 22% tax on all European Union customers!

 

Even ebay do not apply this

[AeRoberto]

Actually that 22% is the VAT (in Italy), it should not be due in the case of a transaction between private individuals, while it has to be paid in the case of the seller being an enterprise (don't know if this is the correct term, sorry). And this is valid also if the buyer is outside Italy.

 

P.S. I'm not an affiliate, just an Italian with some experience with VAT, therefore I have nothing to say about the site.

[alfredop]

Hi Paul,

I think that the VAT only apply to the 3% fee paid by sellers to the site, so as it is not something which concern the buyers. This is compulsory by EU regulation, and it is certainly applied also from ebay (although, since ebay is located in Luxembourg, the VAT is probably less).

Moreover this should apply only to EU sellers, so as sellers outside EU will not pay the VAT on the fee.

 

For example if a EU seller sell a pen for 100E, then

• The buyer pay 100E. + shipping cost (if they are due)
• The seller pay (3 +0.22*3)E. as fee

 

if a US seller sell a pen for 100E, then

• The buyer pay 100E. + shipping cost (if they are due)
• The seller pay 3E. as fee

 

This is what I've understood from the site and my knowledge of the EU regulations.

Alfredo

P.S. I'm not affiliate with PMauction.

Edited by alfredop, 07 January 2014 - 09:32 PM.

[labeo]

A quick look at the 'about us' area is enough to put me off. It tells me nothing about who is behind this venture, but it does state that they will automatically apply a 22% tax on all European Union customers!
 
Even ebay do not apply this

You understand bad. 22% is applied only on the sold items fees. Sold item fees is 3%

[labeo]

Hi Paul,
I think that the VAT only apply to the 3% fee paid by sellers to the site, so as it is not something which concern the buyers. This is compulsory by EU regulation, and it is certainly applied also from ebay (although, since ebay is located in Luxembourg, the VAT is probably less).
Moreover this should apply only to EU sellers, so as sellers outside EU will not pay the VAT on the fee.
 
For example if a EU seller sell a pen for 100E, then

• The buyer pay 100E. + shipping cost (if they are due)
• The seller pay (3 +0.22*3)E. as fee

 
if a US seller sell a pen for 100E, then

• The buyer pay 100E. + shipping cost (if they are due)
• The seller pay 3E. as fee

 
This is what I've understood from the site and my knowledge of the EU regulations.

Alfredo
P.S. I'm not affiliate with PMauction.

Perfect! Nothing to add.

[FarmBoy]

How many buyers is one putting the auction in front of relative to eBay's audience.

[david i]

How many buyers is one putting the auction in front of relative to eBay's audience.

 

Presumably fewer. But, everything starts somewhere.

 

I would like to see a pen-oriented auction site that caters to serious buyers and sellers, so I wish the this new place well. 

 

Whether it can stand in the face of Ebay's "beelions of customers", time will tell...

 

regards

 

david

[labeo]

we do not want to compete directly with ebay. We want make a pens and watches oriented.

 

David if you want a pen oriented site, PMAUCTION is the answer. Maybe it's a young site but after one day run well. 

[labeo]

Some new items on PMAUCTION



WATERMAN'S 42 SET TWO TONE TWIST GALLERY PATTERN ORIGINAL BOX



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50 Original Pressure Bar For Button Filler Pen - 68mm lenght



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PARKER 75 CISELE PEN & BALLPOINT STERLING SILVER SET N# 6603 GUARANTE N#6603 ORIGINAL BOX



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Waterman Special edition Swarovski



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30 Original Pressure Bar For Button Filler Pen - 68mm lenght



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Omas OMAS Extra Ogiva Oversize - 1990 early version



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Aurora Platiridio Steel Nibs - 4 Nibs



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MONTBLANC PENCIL RED BURGUNDY RESIN BOX & PAPER



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PELIKAN 400NN GREEN STRIPED BARREL ORIGINAL 14KT BROAD NIB



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[Brian]

I've been tempted lately to stick a pen on this site for auction.  

[labeo]

I've been tempted lately to stick a pen on this site for auction.  

Place a bid 

[labeo]

Some New Items on www.pmauction.net





PELIKAN 140-piston filler-gold nib EF-1950

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Waterman Special edition Swarovski

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AURORA STILO E SFERA HASTIL LAMINATA ORO

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Delta We Limited Edition Red & Black

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Montblanc Le Grand 146 Meisterstuck Extra Fine Nib

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1990Ca Montblanc 144 Meisterstuck Burgundy

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PARKER Perlè Pens & Ballpoint

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MONTBLANC MEISTERSTUCK LE GRAND Ballpoint

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RARE MONTBLANC n° 246-1948

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[labeo]

Jump on www.pmauction.net and see the Store PPS - Pen Parts Supplies for vintage fountain pens

http://www.pmauction...63,user_id,shop

Some items from PPS - Pen Parts Supplies online store

5 Original New Old Stok Button Filler

http://www.pmauction...auction_details



10 Original New Old Stok Button Filler

http://www.pmauction...auction_details



10 Original New Old Stock Pressure Bar For Button Filler 65mm Lenght

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20 Original New Old Stok Pressure Bar For Button Filler 65mm Lenght

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30 Original New Old Stok Pressure Bar For Button Filler 65mm Lenght

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40 Original New Old Stok Pressure Bar For Button Filler 65mm Lenght
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50 Original New Old Stok Pressure Bar For Button Filler 65mm Lenght

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1937 5 Flexor Alfa Stainless Steel Nib By Aurora - New Old Stok Never Used
http://www.pmauction...auction_details



1937 5 Aurea Lusso Stainless Steel Nib Manufactured By Aurora - New Old Stok Never Used
http://www.pmauction...auction_details


1937 5 Washington Extra Stainless Steel Gold Plated Nib - New Old Stok Never Used
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1935 5 ABT Monviso Stainless Steel Nib - New Old Stock Never Used
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Pelikan EF Stainless Steel Gold Plated Nib - New Old Stok Never Used
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Etc...

[Idazle]

Hi,

 

I've taken a look and see that it follows the same layout as martiniauctions, which is a bit dissapointing as I believe that interface is confusing. Some items are displayed first, but then, if you scroll down find a list of other items. What are those items featured first? highlighted items? randomly selected items?

 

Best regards

[Josephine]

Yup, I find the interface very difficult to use. It is hard to see all the auctions ending soon. And despite doing a search saying "open auctions only" I still end up with tons of closed auctions cluttering things up. :\

 

I like the idea of an eBay alternative, but the interface is just not helping.

 

(That and auctions longer than 9 days annoy me incredibly. That's so glacial it isn't even interesting to me.)

[labeo]

Hi,

 

I've taken a look and see that it follows the same layout as martiniauctions, which is a bit dissapointing as I believe that interface is confusing. Some items are displayed first, but then, if you scroll down find a list of other items. What are those items featured first? highlighted items? randomly selected items?

 

Best regards

 

 Only randomly selected items

[labeo]

Yup, I find the interface very difficult to use. It is hard to see all the auctions ending soon. And despite doing a search saying "open auctions only" I still end up with tons of closed auctions cluttering things up. :\

 

I like the idea of an eBay alternative, but the interface is just not helping.

 

(That and auctions longer than 9 days annoy me incredibly. That's so glacial it isn't even interesting to me.)

 

I don't know when you keept and eye on www.pmauction.net but serching work fine and results of open auctions only are not polluted from tons of closed auctions. Maybe you try to work on website in a moment of maintenance (as ebay all friday pmauction go to manteinance mode for some hours). 

 Auction longer than 9 days is a seller choice. Also ebay allow it.

[labeo]

Some new pens recently listed on PMAUCTION



Morrison The Tourist Big Red

http://www.pmauction...auction_details



Conklin Endura Set

http://www.pmauction...auction_details



Conklin Endura Azurite

http://www.pmauction...auction_details



Waterman Expert II Ballpoint

http://www.pmauction...0&item_type=all



Waterman Swarowski Special Edition

http://www.pmauction...0&item_type=all



Columbus Extra Desk Set

http://www.pmauction...auction_details



Omas Extra 556 Desk Set

http://www.pmauction...auction_details



Rapid GZ Safety Filigree by Ancora

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Ancora Safety Baby

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Aurora Cellini Hong Kong Limited Edition

http://www.pmauction...0&item_type=all

[piscov]

I wish this site all the success in the world, this is an example of the more the merrier, but I am just wondering what this site has to offer to both buyers and seller that can be viewed as a competitive advantage when compared with ebay or the Pen forums..... and so far I don´t see any clear advantage.

 

In my analysis :

 

- price - Lower that ebay but higher than any pen forum  

- Safety - a lot lower than Ebay and the same when compared to all the pen dedicated forums

- Exposition - extremely reduced when compared to Ebay and lot lower than any of the pen forums.

 

Why should I has a seller sell there and as a buyer buy there?

 

Well I can see advantages for the buyers as reduced exposition of the website will decrease competition and therefore drive the prices lower. But that will make the sellers to define reserve prices and increase initial price and therefore reduce sales a lot and keep buyers off and that can be a vicious cycle hard to break...

 

Volume and exposition is key and I hope you can grow a lot as with those prices I don't feel abused like many times in Ebay. It can be interesting venue if you achieve a large audience, gain muscle and add safety for both sellers and buyers you can be on the right track, but your main competitor will be the forums not Ebay in my view.

 

Hope you succeed.

 

All the best