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#1 oakalley

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Posted 09 January 2014 - 11:38 PM

I have a pretty nice "user" Black Patrician that I bought years ago. unfortunately, the pen is a "marriage" as it has a nice plastic cap and good section and a wonderful flex medium nib, however it came to me with what I believe is a black rubber barrel, which is now discolored to a greyish black color and almost brown near the end. the filler lever is in really nice condition with no brassing and the gold imprint on the top is good. I have been searching (not too much lately!!) for a replacement plastic barrel, and someone who can do the replacement. I would really like to get this one restored if possible. It's a great using pen, but I don't care for the color difference. I know this is a long shot as Patrician parts are pretty scarce, but  I thought I   would ask.
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#2 Procyon

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 01:24 AM

I have found that often you can remove the oxidized layer on a BHR pen simply by hand polishing with Simichrome.  This, of course, only works with smooth surfaces. If the pen is chased it will weaken or remove the chased pattern.  Since your pen is smooth, it is a good candidate for this treatment. The downside on your pen is that you may weaken the imprint on the barrel.  You can minimize this by covering it with tape.  Polishing by hand takes time and patience, but often works well.  I have done this with a Waterman 55 that was totally browned out, but now looks almost new.



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#3 david i

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 01:29 AM

Some of the restorers do blacken hard rubber. Finding a plastic Patrician barrel will be exceedingly difficult I fear. Parts do happen, but Patrician parts in general are few and far between.

 

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 01:39 PM

This could be the answer to your problem, but it has a name on the barrel, and there's only 11 hours left in the auction:

http://www.ebay.com/...=item4ace717b56
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Posted 11 January 2014 - 01:44 PM

Hi Jose,

 

That one looks to have rubber barrel too.

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 03:38 PM

Oh, should've looked closer, sorry :(
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Posted 11 January 2014 - 04:19 PM

But, it has a name... why is that an issue?  It is John  O Lay  He is the guy who founded Frit-o- Lay :wacko:  The nib alone is worth more that the current price. Didn't the seller say the cap was cracked?   Robert Lott at 5 Star pens occasionally has Patrician parts he just sold an onyx cap. Give him a try or if it is a user pen have one of them many skilled makers of pens and parts make you a hard rubber cap, Andy Belliveau among others comes to mind.  You have the hardware the clip and band.  My guess I that the cost would be much less than an OEM cap.

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 04:53 PM

Thanks very much for the link. That barrel (EBay pen) is only marginally better than the one I have, and as was stated, it's also hard rubber. Thanks Jerry, I have a really good cap, mine looks fine with no brassing or cracks, just looking for a plastic barrel to match the cap. I'll give Robert Lott a shout.

 

Are their any chances that some of these pen workers, builders/restorers could turn a new barrel out of plastic? it wouldn't have the Waterman imprints, but the ones on my barrel are so worn, they are hard to see. I had sent a Waterman Onyx Patrician to a guy years ago, can't even remember his name, he was supposed to try to find a section for it or have one turned, long story short, lost track of it, forgot about it, he never contacted me, but I never got my pen repaired or returned!! From what he told me, there are artisans out there who can reconstruct just about anything given the time money and materials. If this is a possibility, then that might be the route I choose. I can always keep on the lookout for a genuine black plastic barrel.

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