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#1 Innes Cate

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Posted 27 August 2014 - 09:34 AM

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I have a couple cracked ice and a couple of Tigers Eye that though about adding the herringbone colours.   I recently acquired a Conway Stewart 58 and a 60 herringbone each with a point of difference.

 

The 58 blue herringbone has the original DURO 58 nib which is a broad and flexible - the first DURO nib that I have encountered being flexible.

The 60 green herringbone still had its original 'Conway Stewart' ink sac although petrified solid but a win as the pen has never seen ink - so a mint condition find.

 

I just now need to chase down a red herringbone.

 

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#2 Deb

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Posted 27 August 2014 - 10:03 AM

I just sold a red herringbone 76.  Your pens are gorgeous.  The herringbone was an inspired pattern!



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Posted 27 August 2014 - 10:06 AM

 

 

I just now need to chase down a red herringbone.

 

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Just? You mean you are not going to chase down a silver as well? Very disappointing!

 

My favourite is the red herringbone, a 60 in that colour is one of only a handful of full size Conway Stewarts that I still own.

 

Your pictured pens reinforce my belief that NZ is the best place in the world to find good condition CS pens (especially post war), often at incredibly reasonable prices, good luck with your quest to complete the set.

 

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Posted 27 August 2014 - 11:02 AM

They are beautiful pens Innes, well done. I have a 76 and a 77 in green herringbone and this 28 in red.  

I think Andy is right, there are some real quality pens in NZ!

 

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#5 JonSzanto

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Posted 27 August 2014 - 08:26 PM

It's pretty funny to come back from a weekend pen show and still have your jaw hit the desk. Lovely pens, Innes, and all the rest of you!

 

As a small side note, would anyone care to discuss just why it is that one would consider NZ a good place for pens of this sort in good condition?



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Posted 27 August 2014 - 09:29 PM

 

As a small side note, would anyone care to discuss just why it is that one would consider NZ a good place for pens of this sort in good condition?

 

I think there are a few logical reasons, backed up by years of seeing other people's bargain finds!

 

NZ was an important export market for CS from around 1920, and lots of their pens went down there, especially after the end of WWII. Although CS exported to many parts of the British Empire, the other main markets such as Australia, South Africa and India all generally have rather more extreme climates, so it would not be surprising that more pens survive in great condition in NZ. CS certainly considered the Australian and NZ markets important enough to produce a number of special models which were only sold in those countries.

 

NZ has a pretty small population, so I guess that there are proportionally fewer collectors and hence less competition for the pens that are still around. As well as the bargains I see that NZ-based FPB members pick up from antique shops, I have often seen interesting pens offered on the TradeMe sales site but again, competition for these is fairly limited because registration on the site is limited to the 'locals' in NZ & Australia. All very frustrating to those of us who live on the other side of the world!

 

I should add though that CS herringbone pens do seem to survive in better condition than many other pens, whereever they are found - the colours seem very resistant to fading in light, and the caps and barrels are not easily cracked, and remain glossy, for example. Having said that, the herringbones were only introduced c.1958, so they are also some of the youngest vintage CS pens around. The problems you see on them are generally restricted to the plated metal parts of the pens, which can be a bit weak in places and rather prone to brassing.

 

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Posted 27 August 2014 - 09:38 PM

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When I said above that the population of NZ was pretty small, I just meant that there are not very many people living there, not that most of them are short-arses! I hope no offence was caused....



#8 JonSzanto

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Posted 27 August 2014 - 09:45 PM

Thank you, Andy, all very helpful and interesting!



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Posted 27 August 2014 - 10:14 PM

I would agree with everything you wrote Andy, with the important difference that, for me, is is a good thing that Trademe is local only!

I'm proud to be an Antipodean short-arse!

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Posted 28 August 2014 - 12:29 AM

Indeed some nice pens come up on Trade Me, I've bought one lot.


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Posted 28 August 2014 - 05:12 AM

Though somewhat OT, I'd have to add that some of my best Vac finds have been in NZ--including an emerald OS with a huge GF band. Too bad I passed on the candystripe that was being sold alongside the OS, not knowing enough about Vacs at the time!
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Posted 28 August 2014 - 05:58 AM

There have been a few nice Vacumatics on Trademe this year.  I have noticed they often have replacement(?) nibs.  A rather nice one with a Newhaven Duofold Senior #35 nib just sold for NZ$68 (35 quid).  Were some assembled in the UK I wonder?  In which case they would have perhaps had the English nibs from new.  Not my area of expertise.  

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#13 Innes Cate

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Posted 28 August 2014 - 09:11 AM

They are beautiful pens Innes, well done. I have a 76 and a 77 in green herringbone and this 28 in red.  

I think Andy is right, there are some real quality pens in NZ!

 

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Ironic that my very first fountain pen I brought on Trade Me was a CS 93 in red herringbone - being a small slender pen I later moved it on in favour of the larger 27, 58 and 60.

 

Yes, Conway Stewart is probably the dominant brand pen in the New Zealand vintage fountain pen market, but I can assure you that it is a desert here for vintage fountain pens when you see what you guys pickup/find in boot sales, antique shops and pen shows of the UK and USA.

 

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Posted 06 December 2014 - 06:04 PM

This week I picked up (locally) a 77 in red herringbone.  £35 equivalent shipped.

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Posted 13 July 2016 - 07:14 PM

Hi, I'm late to the party but I catched this CS 28 at the fleamarket last saturday:

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CS are not my focus, so could someone help with the date? Thanks.

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#16 AndyR

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Posted 13 July 2016 - 07:40 PM

Christof, it dates from somewhere between mid 1958 and late 1961.

 

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#17 Christof Z

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Posted 13 July 2016 - 07:52 PM

Wow, this was fast!
Thank you Andy.
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