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#1 Earthdawn

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 03:45 AM

So I was at the Long Island Pen show this weekend and wanted to be sure I got a "REAL" Easterbrook from Brian Anderson. I got a nice user grade as my first one and of course in the excitement I forgot most of what he told me.

 

So instead of emailing him while they are driving home and asking him to repeat what he told me lol I figured I would ask the experts here.

 

Great pen and i really am enjoying using it. I may have found another slippery slope.

 

So here are the pics. What is throwing me off in my "google" search are the cap bands. I have found the clip but not on a cap with those bands. They are just engraved in with no metal.

 

Thank you in advance for the help.

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#2 JonSzanto

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 03:52 AM

If I'm not mistaken, those particular Dollar pens occurred as the world approached war in the early 1940's. All manufacturers were finding ways to reduce or eliminate metal usage, so the 'bands' were just linear indentations in the plastics. And, I've just looked at Brians's site to confirm, and he also mentions thinner plating on the clip to save metal. But definitely a "Dollar" pen.



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Posted 16 March 2015 - 04:02 AM

If I'm not mistaken, those particular Dollar pens occurred as the world approached war in the early 1940's. All manufacturers were finding ways to reduce or eliminate metal usage, so the 'bands' were just linear indentations in the plastics. And, I've just looked at Brians's site to confirm, and he also mentions thinner plating on the clip to save metal. But definitely a "Dollar" pen.

 

That makes a lot of sense. Thank you.

 

I forgot to post that I do remember him saying it was a 1941 version.... sorry..

 

I see the nib is a unit much like Pelican uses. How can I tell what will fit into it if I want to swap out the nib unit? Is there a standard size to look for?

 

Thank you again for the help Jon



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Posted 16 March 2015 - 04:39 AM

I see the nib is a unit much like Pelican uses. How can I tell what will fit into it if I want to swap out the nib unit? Is there a standard size to look for?

 

Oh, good grief, you are a total Esterbrook n00b!!

 

This might be too elementary a subject here on FPB, so feel free to inquire over at FPG. In essence, the Esterbrook nibs, often going by the term/brand "Re-New" points, came in a bewildering number of options, both in terms of the size and shape of the nib tip, to the various quality level (from mere rolled-over tips to tips with tipping material). I really would spend some time at Brian's own Esterbrook site, as it is a large supply of information. You can find an entire page on the nibs, as well.


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Posted 16 March 2015 - 05:38 AM

I see the nib is a unit much like Pelican uses. How can I tell what will fit into it if I want to swap out the nib unit? Is there a standard size to look for?

Just to be clear, everything Jon said is right on the only nib units that will work in the pen are vintage Esterbrooks, Osmiroid and I want to say Venus? The Esterbrooks will be the easiest to source.

Someone will be along shortly to correct me if I'm wrong.

Enjoy!

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 12:56 PM

I just attempted to screw a Pelikan nib into an Esterbrook of the same vintage as yours and it does screw in but it doesn't sit in as far.  The cap screws on OK so it does 'fit'.  I don't know if it will leak or not. I didn't try it.

 

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 04:29 AM

Thank you for the help !!!

 

I can proudly say I am an Easterbrook nOOb and have a lot to learn ... and that means I have a lot to look forward to.

 

@Jon thanks for the help. I read Brian's site and it gave good insight and educated me further for sure.

 

@gweddig you are right as I found a LOT of nibs for sale etc. It looks like I chose a good pen to have some fun with a learn more about.

 

@Norm I tried the same thing with the same result. I took the nib unit from my M101n and it sat exactly the same as yours. I will be looking for just Esterbrook nibs for now though the 2668 nib in it now is great for everyday writing and notes. I took it for a spin at work today and really enjoyed it.



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Posted 17 March 2015 - 04:54 AM

 

I see the nib is a unit much like Pelican uses. How can I tell what will fit into it if I want to swap out the nib unit? Is there a standard size to look for?

 

Oh, good grief, you are a total Esterbrook n00b!!

 

This might be too elementary a subject here on FPB, so feel free to inquire over at FPG. In essence, the Esterbrook nibs, often going by the term/brand "Re-New" points, came in a bewildering number of options, both in terms of the size and shape of the nib tip, to the various quality level (from mere rolled-over tips to tips with tipping material). I really would spend some time at Brian's own Esterbrook site, as it is a large supply of information. You can find an entire page on the nibs, as well.

 

 

Dude...

 

No question about models is too elementary.  Questions about models/variants/collecting are the Board's core purpose in life. Offhand, I have to do some review for those bandless dollar-ish pens.  Sure, just chase away the curious... ;)

 

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 04:55 AM

Have I ever mentioned I have a tray of exotic point Osmiroids that fit. Music, Stub, da works...


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Posted 17 March 2015 - 05:23 AM

Have I ever mentioned I have a tray of exotic point Osmiroids that fit. Music, Stub, da works...

 

Nope... and I spent a lot of time on your site last night and did not see a "nibs" page ?

 

I was going to ask Paul about them more when we were talking at the LI show but I completely forgot.



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Posted 17 March 2015 - 06:27 AM

 

No question about models is too elementary.  Questions about models/variants/collecting are the Board's core purpose in life. Offhand, I have to do some review for those bandless dollar-ish pens.  Sure, just chase away the curious... ;)

 

Doctor!

 

Good point. I had no intention of chasing peeps away. A perusal of threads going back over, oh, say, a month shows that - just as I suspected - the board leans heavily to older vintage, exotica, and high-ticket collectibles. You don't see a lot of Lamy Safaris (save for Grandmia's experiments), Pilot Metropolitans, or - for the vintage entry level - the wonder of the Esterbrook.

 

Oh, I'm happy to talk here, and I did a little bit. What I usually note is those type of subjects whither and die with few responses, and ED and I speak frequently next door. I can keep all of the banter here, naturally, but there is no reason to at least acknowledge the somewhat specialist nature of FPB.

 

Which reminds me: I have to find a way to shoot a no-name set I landed a month or two ago. Very pretty, great condition, certainly 3rd tier but much better quality than I am used to and precisely zero identification on them anywhere. Very interesting celluloid, so maybe someone will have seen it. Try to get it up before the end of the week...

 

Ok, sleeptime.

 

Cheers,

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Edited by JonSzanto, 17 March 2015 - 06:29 AM.


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Posted 17 March 2015 - 06:44 AM

 

 

No question about models is too elementary.  Questions about models/variants/collecting are the Board's core purpose in life. Offhand, I have to do some review for those bandless dollar-ish pens.  Sure, just chase away the curious... ;)

 

 

Oh, I'm happy to talk here, and I did a little bit. What I usually note is those type of subjects whither and die with few responses, and ED and I speak frequently next door. I can keep all of the banter here, naturally, but there is no reason to at least acknowledge the somewhat specialist nature of FPB.

 

 

 

 

I went to the last post posted ... and did not see what you wrote above David... otherwise I would have responded to it. 

 

YES indeed Jon and I know each other from the "other" place and talk often. Him taking liberties at me is fine and he already knew that. I don't want to cloud the thread with that but you brought it up and it should be clear that Jon and I are on the same page. Plus being stubborn and from NY I don't scare off easy or take things to heart.  ;)

 

Besides the fact that he hit the nail on the head, I absolutely know next to nothing about Esterbrooks... BUT this board being what it is was just the reason I posted my question here. The minds on this board exceed any source out there and thats a fact. 

 

Sooo back on topic, David do let me know if you have those nibs listed somewhere that I am not finding.

 

 

EDIT !!! ~ I guess I could have asked you in person now that I just found out you were at the show! I posted at FPG's thread how disappointed I am that I didn't even know you were there.... 


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#13 Rick Krantz

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Posted 24 March 2015 - 04:20 AM

you actually got  a "better" esterbrook variant/model there. bandless dollar pens, clean are not easy to find. can be a fu series to "collect" they are fun to use with the wide variety of nibs to acquire too.... 






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