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[malachvintagepens]

Hi everyone, today presented two curiosities, something I have never seen,

Item 1 - Parker Duofold Black Senior Flat Top with date number (1 with three points), the number is recorded upside down, look down, think it should be a manufacturing error - Item 2 - A smaller pen Duofold with three bands of gold on the CAP and date in the barrel, and number (without 0 points) - Annex pictures in my gallery - My question is this - does anyone know anything of this nature - or perhaps is common perhaps is rare or scarce ?, It brings some added value to the pen? - I have these models of pen in all the colors but I've never seen one with the date or a number, I see this only in Vac etc, from the 30, s - I'd appreciate any information on this. Thank you very much to all in advance

[matt]

Seem to be replacement barrels.  The upside down 1 has been reported before.  I've got one with 45 (4th qtr 1935) stamped sideways on the barrel.

[malachvintagepens]

Thanks for the info, but I wonder if they are replacement pens were due manufacture of these models with date data, or maybe spare parts are manufactured? - I have no info about this and think anyone can do it with the Parker system (brand impression, age.., under pressure from hot mold) - and in this case, which were manufactured and during that year were made in USA, in Canada, UK,? it would be interesting to know this to properly identify the pen. Thanks again

[david i]

My suspicion is that for a single quarter in 1941, perhaps all date-coded pens have that upside down mark. I do need to look at more pens. Likely was an error, but might be the rule (even if unintended) for that quarter.  Seemingly late production pieces are known.  1939 Mandarin flat-tops for example.  Whether these were late parts blow-out or barrel replacements stamped at time of use at the Parker plant, I cannot say. Not sure what to make of the description of your second pen. A pic would help.

 

regards

 

david

[matt]

I think this is his 2nd pen.  1940 date code, could be one dot upside down, or just a gouge.

 

[malachvintagepens]

Hello again and thank you very much for your help, the second pen - yellow mandarin Streamilined with three gold rings on the CAP - has a number 0 (zero) and one point, I consulted with the person that I bought it and has confirmed to me that is a zero with a point - I've uploaded a new picture of the area with the number and the point - and it is up to 1930, it should be first quarter (guess); I understand that Parker had to change the nomenclature of dates again during the decade of the 30, s were two numbers (quarter and year), during the 40,s was a number and one, two, three, or nigún point (year and quarter), my surprise is that I have never seen a Duofold Flat Top Streamlined model or model with date codes -  have recommended this book -The title is "Parker Duofold" by authors Shepherd and Zazove - but it seems that is depleted, they say is the most comprehensive info Duofold, perhaps some reader forum and have it can provide some info about it.

Best Regards to all from Spain.

[david i]

Hi,

Date codes first appeared third quarter 1934.  A single zero indicates 1940.

 

regards

 

david

[malachvintagepens]

Thank you very much for this info, then I can understand that this means that these models Parker Senior Flat Top and Streamlined models were made also during the 30s and 40s. I knew parker dates Vacumatic first generation following two numbers, later with a number and several points (quarters) and 51 more changes. Good information. Thanks again

[matt]

And here's a Duofold with a 7 date code

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/391410825249