Old Griz

Is anyone a member of Badger & Blade? Worth warning people over there of his antics?

Definitely now feel this guy should have been challenged through the official channels - maybe then he'd stop this.

And in response to people pondering Autism or mental illness, we don't have a full pucture of Brando to work this out. People with Autism can be very single minded, but generally aren't manipulative or deceitful. Tactless and blunt, maybe, but lying is unusual.

Don't need to be a member... there is a contact link for non members.

Very nice... my daughter especially likes the musicians.... of course she is a violinist and loves to play Irish music...

Great stuff!! Just imagine what she will be doing in a few years....,,

Xlnt, Tom! Even if it is getting harder and harder to make a career out of music, the skills, focus, and passion it brings to a young person's life are traits they will carry forever. She is growing, with each phrase she brings to life!

As good as she is becoming and as much as she loves her music and the arts HS she is attending ... she has no intention of becoming a professional musician.....
She intends to teach... either math or science ......
She is starting her Sophomore year of HS and is already seriously looking into colleges....
She intends to join Navy ROTC in college which will require 5 yrs of active service time when she graduates so she is also seriously looking into attending Annapolis (the US NAVY ACADEMY)
I could not be more proud of the choices she is looking into for her future.... she is a very serious young lady with a zest for life and amazing drive to get things done...

Thank you both for the replies thus far, this is very interesting information.

Through my research I had identified the smaller of the two as a liquid lead pencil, I had googled the "diamond LL" marking on the body to discover this; oddly enough the pencil still writes. Furthermore I have been reading up on flushing the pen, some say it will clean up nice with a good flushing and others seem to indicate that because of the ink that may have been used it is sometimes better to disassemble the pen and clean it that way.

I in no way feel comfortable at this point disassembling the pen to clean it and think I will start with a good flushing, should it not clean up well enough for use with a good flushing is it worth having the pen serviced by a professional? Has anyone had a pen professionally serviced and if so what sort of cost would be appropriate for this type of pen?

Back to the pen and pencil, I have looked and don't see any form of date code or other identifiable markings; is it possible to date the pen and pencil that I have acquired? I had read one page that covered the Parker 51 history in great detail but could not ascertain the date of this pen\pencil by that information alone.

Thanks.

I would start by flushing the pen a bunch of time with a solution of 10% household non-sudsing ammonia in cool water... that should break down any dried ink.... it may take a lot of flushing before it comes out clean... then flush with plain water to remove the ammonia solution and allow to dry nib down wrapped in a napkin or paper towel to dry out... fill with your favorite ink and write....
If for some reason you still have a problem go to a craft supply shop and buy some technical pen cleaner (most us who do restoration use Rapidoeze) and fill the pen with a 50/50 mix with cool water and allow to sit overnight before starting to flush with the Rapidoeze solution as you did with the ammonia solution.... Rapidoeze will break down india ink and should really give a good cleaning...
You could also just start with the Rapidoeze if you want...
If all this fails send the pen off to a good restorer..... I and and a few other here do this work. Check my website for restoration prices.

Here is a nice transition Shadow Wave for your viewing pleasure...

Very nice example of the 3rd Gen Shadow Wave, but I would not use the term "transition" with it. Final Style... might be better.

regards

david

OK. final style it is..... you should remember that pen... you tried to buy it at Columbus a couple of years ago....
What do you think something like that is worth now.... and no dodging and dashing around... just an idea is good enough