milojinx

Saleem ali,
I do like your definition and the way you used it in your explanation. But a Parker 75 is 50 years old. And a PFM pen has style of nib and shape that are still being made today by sheaffer. To me a converter no longer makes a pen "modern". I read another topic in this forum on how "modern" pens are bad because of this or that. Some are, some are not. Just like vintage pens some are great, some not so cool. It really is not fair to generalize about your pens. I have many old pens and many new ones as well. Some of my old ones are just not that great, and some are wonderful. I have a Duofold Junior that is now 80 some odd years old. hate it. have a 1980's Duofold international that I absolutely love. An example in reverse, my father's Wahl Eversharp Doric is simply wonderful, power plunger, works great and smooth. My Visconti power plunger, not so great, sometimes leaks, and I need to really have it repaired. I guess I hate generalizations of fountain pens. If it is new, old, really old (vintage) or really new (modern) they should not be criticized in a general statement. I think they are all wonderful and should all be appreciated for what they give each of us. Another note, I tend to write in Italic style, and not a cursive style, who cares or needs flex? Yes, it is nice once in a while, but it is not that great of characteristic of a nib. I can not see myself writing like Thomas Jefferson and reading "in the purfuit of happineff". (favorite Stan Frieberg line).

Or better yet, how about a Visconti Voyager pen, out of production, vintage?
(I feel so evil).

So if Pelikan reintroduced a 100N, then it is Modern. But the old one would still be vintage even though it is now technically in production? Car example, Ford Mustang has been in production since it was first made in 1964, but a 1960's and now 1970's mustangs are consider vintage. A Parker 75 is vintage even though the production stopped in the 1990's (not sure), and the filling system is considered modern piston converter, but that has been a hallmark of Parker since the early 1960's. My black and white mind wants to know! Devil's advidcate at work here.