David,
Since the cap has a plain arrow clip and appears to have the chunkier outline of a first generation pen, is the subject pen the Standard shown in the 1938 Jubilee catalog:
http://barnyard.syr....ica/jubcat3.jpg
or is that pen still a lockdown filler??
Is the 1.5th generation you reference a pen with a 1st generation cap profile (and cap thread configuration), but a Speedline filler? A post-lockdown, pre-Streamlined, Standard?
Hi Matt,
The 1938 catalogue shows "just" a typical Standard.
The quote by me via Jose covers most of the ground.
The cap is typical first gen cap (for both Standard and Shadow Wave Junior) wholly correct to any first gen pen.
Barrel "looks" 2nd gen at first glance, speedline filler long blind cap.
But, the threads are not second gen. The section is not. The threads will not take Major or later-Wave cap respectively. The section and threads are first gen-ish
One might argue that one can put a long blind cap and speedline filler onto/into a first gen barrel, which would give a ludicrously(+) long barrel, which is true enough.
But the 15th gen pens are only ludicrously long not ludicrously+ long
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Although the Waves are closer to normal.
Consider that the barrel/blind cap assembly of 1st Gen and early 2nd Gen pens are about same. But 2nd Gen has long blind cap. It necessarily must have shorter barrel. If you were to put a long 2nd gen blind cap on the longer barrel of the 1st gen pen, you get ridiculously long barrel assembly
When first I saw a 1.5th gen pen (my tern, call it... transitional...if ya' will), it was a ludicrously long Standard. I figured it was jut a blind cap and filler swap, which can be done.
But, it had the 1939 imprint... odd.
And, it had a star clip despite being first gen cap. Very odd, as first gen pens "never" had star clips (one would have to swap one in from Maxima to do this as a collector).
And, on CAREFUL inspection the barrel was not quite as long as the long 2nd gen barrel but not quite as short as 1st gen barrels, It was intermediate size.
And, the game began....
-d