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#1 tmenyc

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Posted 25 July 2015 - 03:20 PM

I have what appears to be a Waterman Thorobred.  It has no model marking, although both the imprint and nib note manufacture in England.  Although it looks like every Thorobred I've seen pictures of, mid-30's plain black celluloid, lower level feel to it, all the others note that it's USA made, possibly successors to Model 3's and predecessors to Stalwarts.  So, is this guy a British Thorobred or some other contemporaneous model?

 

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Posted 25 July 2015 - 07:29 PM

It certainly looks like one, however I'm not aware of it being marketed as such.



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Posted 26 July 2015 - 01:47 AM

To this day, without review I tend to confuse the 32A and the Thorobread.  Non-USA pens tend to be a bit quirky too.

 

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Posted 26 July 2015 - 02:41 AM

David, so it could be a British 32A too?  Did they call them that?  Definitely time for me to buy Max Davis' book...anyone have an extra copy lying around?  

 

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Posted 26 July 2015 - 07:37 AM

According to TEFPI,  Altura in the UK made some Waterman models for LG Sloan in the late 1930s, including a Junior and a model 32B. Sloan and Waterman amalgamated in 1946, and acquired the Altura business about the same time. I doubt Max's book will help - it has plenty of pictures but little actual history.

 

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Posted 26 July 2015 - 12:29 PM

Andy,

Forgive my ignorance, but what is TEFPI?

Tim

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Posted 26 July 2015 - 01:50 PM

Sorry, this is shorthand for 'The English Fountain Pen Industry 1875 - 1975' by Steve Hull, a LE that is I think now sold out. It is a collection of monographs based largely on information gleaned from the British Stationery trade press over this period, a useful book well known to many collectors of English pens.

 

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Posted 26 July 2015 - 04:33 PM

Many thanks...a different search altogether.  And you're right, it's the history I want, not just the photos.  Having seen some pictures now of the 32A and 32B, and a Junior,  I'm thinking it's more likely one of those than a British Thorobred, which I don't find listed anywhere.  

  

 

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