Alex

The Green one I have seen before and in Brown (I think). Can I assume it is imprinted with some sort of parker imprint? Did they make a challenger like that? If the Red is a Thermometer case I have a Silver/Grey one to match. I cant tell what the 51 cap is clearly. Is it a "coin stack" jewelers band? Are the unusual? As to the duofold I have nothing to say.

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Alex

Rarity and value have NOTHING to do with each other. As a collector of alot of third tier stuff some of which I have never seen another and when I take it to a show nobody else has. BUT the minute someone writes a book about that company all of a sudden everybody want one. There is a list! That is what collectors love. With a list you can fill in the blanks and if it is not on the list OOOH it is rare. Now that everyone is collecting them the prices rise. Dealers start to look in their junk bins because of the value and they start coming out of the woodwork prices drop and if more collectors continue to the prices stabilize.
IT IS ALL ABOUT DESIRE! Look at the skylines they have dropped in price for no real reason other than nobody wants them anymore for some reason. And as they are dumped the number on the market increases and prices drop. We will see what happens as the new WAHL company starts selling new pens interest may rise......
Another interesting thing is that pens that CANT be restored and/or cant work command less value than those that can even from collectors who swear they never write with their pens. Just anecdotal.
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Alex

just going thru my notes and wanted to add my 2c worth. Golden brown came out with the rose glow in the womens line in 1936 right? And the radius clip appears in 1935 however only on the Ladys it appeared on the oversize as well in 1936 but all lower models still had the old clip right?
But that is based on what I think I can decode from the cryptic catalog numbers
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Alex

Very nice history. I have 3 additional Sheaffer history questions.
First from what i have seen in the catalogs the feather touch (labeled as such) #7 was for the over size balance. And the 5 was for the standard. I would swear I have seen oversize (non-white dot) with #5's is that true?
Second I can find no catalog reference to a Feather touch #8 in a non-white dot oversize balance. I know these exist because I have one. I also have a #7 that someone has squished into a standard size balance and I do mean squished as it is cracked. BOTH are in grey pearl and black balances if that helps date it. Any info as to when they switched? The 8 is bigger than the 7 by the way. Also at some point it appears that they no longer made an oversize non-white do is that true?
Lastly in rummaging thru the catalogs I was wondering is anyone has made a secret decoder for it as there are minimal descriptions and the catalog number which I am sure were very descriptive to the dealers at the time are jiberish. But you can figure some of the codes but when you are trying to say something does or doesnt exist the codes dont help.

I have had many arguments about whether a non-white dot oversize had a 7 or 8 feather touch in it and having seen one with a 5 (which had an oversize section with a very small hole for the smaller feed) it becomes very confusing. Any info would be great.

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Alex