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#21 david i

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 11:33 PM

David,

Whew! the eye candy/pencil porn is titilating, but just raises my blood pressure and makes me drool on my keyboard. :blink: Please don't forget to discuss how to distinguish various Vac pencils, even if it's just a boring ol' list or set of photos arranged by generation and model.


Hi Matt,

At some point soon will take stab. Would be fairly easy to do a basic description table. Illustrating it will take more time. I do remain on a hectic schedule this next week. Too, anomalies happen ;)


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Posted 08 December 2011 - 11:37 PM

I definitely agree with Matt! On top of wishing to know the basic models, we need to know what makes these pencils you are showing special.




Hi B-

"Special" of course is a subjective notion, and numerous elements can contribute cachet. I likely should be careful not to puff any of 'em up too much ;)

To degree that common is common... typical late Major/Junior/Deb/Sub-deb anything a bit better is, well, a bit better.

Jeweler's Cap-band pens and pencils are well less common than catalogued models. Finding a Maxima Jeweler's Band repeater pencil, starts to pile on the charm. Shadow Wave Jeweler's Band pencils are uncommon. Blue Maxima pencil is very uncommon. Despite being a documented pencil, I doubt I've seen five in my 13 years in the hobby. The triple cap-band repeater pencils are not documented in USA, though enough have turned up from Canada that they might have been standard issue there, but still they are uncommon and are a bit special as they represent an style that deviates from the USA expectations, unlike most Canadian Vacs. And so forth...

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 12:01 AM

Now this one really is insane, even if it not... quite... a "Vacumatic" pencil.

This one is in my collection, where it should rest for some time to come. Do I need to point out what is interesting about this one?

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 12:46 AM

David,

Reminds me of this pencil you teased us with some time ago...

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 04:06 PM

Nothing much to add really, just posting a little more eye candy.


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Posted 09 December 2011 - 05:19 PM

"Special" of course is a subjective notion,


Yup... this is the 'Special Ed' class, isn't it?

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 06:36 PM

David,

Reminds me of this pencil you teased us with some time ago...

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Yeppers. That one has typical shape of Vacuum-Filler pencil and used Vac plastic, but has a Duofold imprint. Weird. Wish I owned it. But the Silver Pearl pencil might be better still, as it is a Duofold Senior pen in shape and imprint, but done in Vac plastic. Killer piece. And, at least I own that one :)

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 06:36 PM

Nothing much to add really, just posting a little more eye candy.


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GREAT pens. I wonder how many reading this thread can ID then... ??? Posted Image

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 06:56 PM

GREAT pens. I wonder how many reading this thread can ID then... ??? Posted Image

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They're pencils, by the way. Canadian? Jr w/ solid gold (9K?) capband and a "Ripley's" (red/blue instead of red/black stripes)?

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 06:58 PM

GREAT pens. I wonder how many reading this thread can ID then... ??? Posted Image


An Imperial Signet and a Ripley's?

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Posted 11 December 2011 - 07:31 PM

David, the black and white marbled/cracked pencil back on the first page that you said could be considered a "Grail" pencil... where did that plastic come from?

Edited by RobertNFrappuls, 11 December 2011 - 07:33 PM.


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Posted 11 December 2011 - 07:35 PM

David, the black and white marbled/cracked pencil back on the first page that you said could be considered a "Grail" pencil... where did that plastic come from?


I figure Dupont Chemical or one of the other celluloid manufacturers of the 1930's ;)

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 06:35 AM

Speaking of mismatched "sets" like David and I mentioned earlier (Maxima pens with Major pencils) this is an odd "set" I saw on eBay. It's a Debutante pen with a Major pencil, both engraved the same...

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 05:15 PM

Well actually... they're egraved exactly not the same.
Think about it...

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 05:19 PM

Well actually... they're egraved exactly not the same.
Think about it...

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I thought about that too. But when they are both in the writing position, they ARE engraved the same.... think about it...

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 05:31 PM

I thought about that too. But when they are both in the writing position, they ARE engraved the same.... think about it...


Hi,

Note, too, that the Parker imprint on pen and pencil can seem to be oriented oppositely... until one considers... writing position. Looks like the engraver of that Silver Pearl set was a thoughtful worker.

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 05:48 PM

Hey, you guys are absolutely right! What's funny is that wise-ass me completely missed that obvious detail (and that's just the sort of thing I usually do notice).

Must be time for another cup of coffee.

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Posted 16 December 2011 - 04:42 AM

Hey, you guys are absolutely right! What's funny is that wise-ass me completely missed that obvious detail (and that's just the sort of thing I usually do notice).

Must be time for another cup of coffee.

Tim
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I take it Smart is somewhere in between?

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Posted 16 December 2011 - 04:34 PM

I take it Smart is somewhere in between?


I cling to the idea that wisdom comes with age and that a hoary head is the sign of such things. I think smart is probably a whole other continuum entirely.
(My daughter calls me "Mr. Smarty-Pants" on occasion. I think that's likely a point on the dumb-ass/wise-ass spectrum and has nothing to do with being smart.)

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Posted 17 May 2015 - 08:15 AM

I know this is a very old thread I'm digging up here, but I have a silver pearl pencil I can't identify : no date code engraved, nothing...

A fellow collector here in France thinks it is an early vacumatic or vacuum filler, saying the silver pearl design appeared in 1933. Any opinion ? (I've put the blue pencil for size comparison). Thanks. 

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