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#21 Rick Propas

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Posted 19 May 2013 - 08:54 AM

Like all the 111s, it writes insanely well.


For me, this set, recently arrived, may be the best answer to the title of this thread.

Wow, what a gorgeous nib! I bet it writes well too.


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Posted 19 May 2013 - 10:48 AM

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Your Rheingolds are marvellous, especially the early one in coral! Very, very cool. But what's the second coral pen? Never seen ...
Christof


+one!!

Fantastic pens. Also curious about the top Coral pen.. is it a Soennecken?



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#23 markiv

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Posted 19 May 2013 - 04:36 PM

Vik
Your Rheingolds are marvellous, especially the early one in coral! Very, very cool. But what's the second coral pen? Never seen ...
Christof




Vik
Your Rheingolds are marvellous, especially the early one in coral! Very, very cool. But what's the second coral pen? Never seen ...
Christof


+one!!

Fantastic pens. Also curious about the top Coral pen.. is it a Soennecken?




The top coral pen is equally laden with beauty and mystery. All I know is it is made in England, warranted 14K nib and lever filler.
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Posted 24 May 2013 - 06:04 AM

Just wanted to Show you my newest flea market found. It's one of These so called "Swiss Soennecken" wich were made for the Swiss market only. It's an elegant 1950's pen in great condtion and a marvellous and flexible nib. There's no number on this pen, but probably it's a 116 size.

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Have a look at this writing sample:

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This is one of these pen mysteries I still don't understand. Why did Soennecken manufacture pens for such a small market as Switzerland only?



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Posted 24 May 2013 - 08:42 AM

Perhaps there were more fountain pen users in Switzerland? Or viewing from a business perspective -- the quantity ordered/demanded from the Swiss market was able to support their own individual line?

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Posted 25 May 2013 - 03:22 AM

Well, this is a topic I can say somthing to.
....but it's early in the morning here, need some time....
only one thing for now: Soennecken is a very interesting brand with lots of high quality pens but I never would say one single brand is "best" or superior than orhers.I'll come back to this thread during the day.
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Okay, here I am again...

First, Soennecken is one of the oldest German pen brand. They started early with safetys and lever fillers. These are very rare nowadays. Then, Soennecken introduced the famous "Rheingold" push knob filler. First without, but later with inkview. Here es a picture of a very early Rheingold:
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...just ignore the Duodold, it's just for size comparison.

The later "Rheingold" is compareable to WAterman's inkview, just knob than lever activated:

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The flagship of the Rheingolds has been the "Präsident". Here a picture of a pre war President:

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...and a post war Pres.

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After that Pelikan introduced the piston filler in 1929, Soennecken started also with pistons in the late 30's. Here's a 507 from this time:

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All these Soennecken piston mechanisms look similar:

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After WWII, Soennekcen introduced the famous 111, 222 and 333 to compete with Montblanc. The two special things about these are first the click filling mechanism and second the marvellous celluloids like herringbone patterns in different colors or lizard pattern in different colors.

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The piston was still the same, the click mechanism has just been added to the filling knob:


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If I had to compare Montblanc, Pelikan and Soennecken pens, I'd say that:

-Pelikan had only few different models but lots of different colors.

-Montblanc had many different models but only few colors.

-But Soennecken had lots of different models and lots of colors! They also had a quite cryptical numbering system and it's hard or nearly impossible to get an overview over all this Soenneckens. This may be interesting for some colletors, for others it's just scary...and I would say it is probably impossible to get a complete Pelikan or Montblanc collection but it is surely impossible to get all the Soenneckens.

Fact is, to come back to your question, these 50's made Soennecken are extremely well made pens in very attractive patterns and colors. But again, I never would say that these are "better" than the ones from another brand.



Christof



PS: To make it even more complicated: Soennecken did produce pens only for the Swiss market in the 1950's... Again more different pens! I wrote about that on my endless thread on FPN: S E E H E R E


Oh! I would love the red pen Christof!


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#27 Will

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 10:50 AM

Could anybody give at least partial history of the 111 and 222 models? When did the clip and trim change?

Edited by Will, 13 June 2013 - 10:46 AM.


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Posted 12 June 2013 - 05:54 AM

Oh! I would love the red pen Christof!

Many of us would...

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Posted 29 November 2014 - 11:16 AM

Why Soennecken ? For this pearly one, which I have troubles identifying though : 

 

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#30 Christof Z

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Posted 30 November 2014 - 08:36 PM

This is what we call a "Swiss Soennecken", made for the Swiss market in the 50's.
Probably a110.
But there's not much information known about.
I have had similar ones. But only one in this gray platinum celluloid. Not seen very often...
Nice catch.
These are quite reliable pens when brought back to life. A bit on the small side but nice.
c.

ps: just added a picture of same pen in different color:

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pps: here's a link to the website of my friend Daniel who is doing research about this topic (and others).

http://www.swiss-pen...g-zu-ch-marken/

...just found an old picture of the other Platinum celluloid pen.

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Edited by Christof Z, 01 December 2014 - 08:52 AM.


#31 toltotoll

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Posted 01 December 2014 - 09:41 AM

Thank you, Christof, for this information and for the link to the very interesting web site.

Never thought there had been so many swiss brands ! I knew about Monte Rosa but not about all the others. 



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Posted 01 December 2014 - 10:22 AM

The Tower, Soennecken  Scandinavian market  Sub-brand.

 

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#33 soot

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Posted 01 December 2014 - 04:44 PM

The Tower --- they haunt me. I have been conditioned to avoid them like a bad taste to my mouth.

 

Don't get me wrong, they are great pens -- just that my first purchase of Tower pen was a crapper. :(



#34 piscov

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Posted 01 December 2014 - 06:17 PM

What a bad luck!

I have the opposite  experience, my first one was the 3rd black pen from the right, a The Tower Superior with an HUGE and fantastic nib, I was hooked on them since.


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