Solid gold though I know not what carat level in wavey line or pseudo fish scale pattern.

Ah, Rick, there you are! That was an excellent dinner, in fact. Look forward to seeing you in the future, possibly in Ohio - let's see if my planets align.


Brando, I've been thinking of starting with the "pocket pens" that Pilot, Platinum and Sailor all seemed to produce for a good long time.


Thanks, all, for the warm welcome.


John M.

Im not sure what a pocket pen is... Could you brighten my horizon, would this be it? Im almost thinking ringtop, but im somewhat sure that the three companies listed didn't make ringtops.

http://www.ebay.com/...n-/251140523328

A pocket pen is 99% of all pens, that which goes (or can go) in a pocket. Unlike a desk pen

regards

david

Thanks, never heard the term used before.

What a fine array of dummy pens! Thanks for sharing these.

Between ebay and the Washington DC Pen Show August 2012, I added the following three 1930's Sheaffer Balance pens to my collection


The black pen at left is the charming "stubby" (full girth but short). The fuchsia pen is a long slender and the black pen in foreground is a short slender.

Anything catch the eye?

regards

David

The pattern's on the cap bands?

That indeed is part of it. Now, if you were spending a few tens of dollars at the PCA and thus receiving PENnant Magazine, instead of just buying pens here n' there, you'd know even more

Still, there is a bit more to the pens and more we can expand on the theme...

regards

david

Interesting sliding lock feature. I don't know this one, Boston did a couple variations, patents on these started arising just after 1900. Rhodes Lockwood had one in 1903. He was President of Davidson Rubber which supplied hard rubber to many of the pen makers of the day.

Roger W.

This one is also interesting:

http://www.ebay.com/...=item2c674ff030

Somebody got very lucky. Even if the pens are missing their nibs.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/300735558578

Mr Saskatoon
It is truely right and just to feel uneasy about this post.
Jerry Adair

possibly an Onoto or Eagle.

The Waterman checkbook pen has a very specific look and having handled some in the past they are unmistakable as anything but. If you collect Watermans I would highly recommend Gary Lehrer and Max Davis' book Waterman past and present, it's a terrific pictoral reference guide especially if you are not familiar with the models.

Fairly straightforward for UK made pens. Solid gold overlaid pens (vintage or modern) will always bear a full set of UK hallmarks showing a letter that indicates date of marking, with fineness (ie number of carats), assay office and sponsor's (maker's) marks. The full set of marks will normally appear on the largest part (barrel), each removable part (cap, for instance) will also bear a partial set of marks, and of course the date letters should be the same on each piece if all the parts are original. Solid gold bands are not always marked in the same way as minimum size regulations varied over the years, so you do see solid gold bands just marked '9ct', especially pre-1930.

Most other overlays of a gold appearance would be of rolled gold (often marked 18ct RG). Rolled gold is made by pressure bonding a thin sheet of gold onto a brass substrate, the layer of gold is much thicker than in gold plating and so it should be more durable. Beware false hallmarks that were sometimes applied to RG to confuse or deceive! 'Gold filled' is not a term normally associated with UK pens - I've always assumed it to mean the same thing as our RG but I could be wrong in that. Gold plating is not generally seen on UK pens.

If you have access to back copies of the WES Journal, my article on the hallmarks found on Conway Stewart pens in no. 75 (2006) may be worthwhile background reading!
Andy

Here's how you contact the buyer: go into the seller's feedback - this lot is not listed yet, meaning the seller hasn't been paid/left feedback so you'll have to check back for a few days - scroll through until you find that lot and the buyer's name will be listed. Click on the buyer's name and up pops his/her feedback along w/ a link to "contact member". This doesn't always work; some sellers list so many lots that they don't get around to leaving feedback.

You'll need a pretty good offer if you want to buy the entire lot; the buyer probably likes overlays as much as you do. I've got a 50% success rate trying to buy one item out of a lot. One buyer countered w/ an acceptable price, the other said he had bought that particular pen for a customer (odd that it reappeared on ebay a month later... ). Just be polite so you don't get into problems w/ ebay.