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[david i]

I am sending another picture of the black junior. I don't want you to think I don't know black for burgundy. It is a very poor effort with pen photo. I was trying to be artistic at 1:am in the morning. Here is a better picture of the centre pen. It is indeed just over 5inches or 13 cm. I am surprised about the pencil. I thought everyone had tons of pencils. I am also impressed what infomation you all can glean from pictures.

Yep the Burgundy Canadian 1950-53 Vac Junior. There is one (with comments couple posts later) in the original post to this thread. Not common. Never made in USA. Less common even among the late Canadian pens than Major.

regards

David

[penmanila]

vacumatic juniors (which appeared in all three generations--some have double jewels, some are mottled, etc. so there's quite a variety) always have two bands and typically monotone nibs, being the "economy" line. standards are first-generation vacs--two jewels always. it's the major and the junior that look very much alike, except for the different cap bands.

i'll leave it to david i. to deal with the striped sections on the debutantes

Both the standard and the junior are approx the same size. What makes a standard and a junior different. Date? Also not that bothe of the dubutantes have not got black sections?

[david i]

vacumatic juniors (which appeared in all three generations--some have double jewels, some are mottled, etc. so there's quite a variety) always have two bands and typically monotone nibs, being the "economy" line. standards are first-generation vacs--two jewels always. it's the major and the junior that look very much alike, except for the different cap bands.

i'll leave it to david i. to deal with the striped sections on the debutantes

Hi,

Debutante was a high-line miodel, indeed the last routine long-running high line model to be introduced. As such one would expect striped sections until striped sections in general gave way to black sections in early 1939. Of course, Canadian pens had black sections all along. Since the pens were introduced in 1938, only USA made pens with 1938 and some with early 1939 imprints will have striped sections.

Noting again that Burgundy Junior striped pens were never made in USA and only late in game in Canada, I offer image of a gem set I offered year or so back.

regards

david

[NABodie]

I didn't think I saw a 2nd Gen Deb in here yet. Here is one I've had awhile with Star clip. The blob under the clip popped rt off when it was being polished.



..........oh and here are the rest of my Burgandy Vacs.

OS, Standard, 2nd Gen Major, 3rd Gen Major and Deb.



Interesting, I had not noticed before I made this shot tonight that the 2nd Gen is 5 3/8" Long Major.

[david i]

A bit of Photoshopping to bring out the red color of NABodie's red pens.

regards

david

[amble63]

In contrast to my uber-ambered burgundy, this one is rather transparent:

[June H]

In contrast to my uber-ambered burgundy, this one is rather transparent:

That's a real beaut!