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[haywoody]

I only have a few Tuckies but I have one pen to add that I don't think I've seen represented yet:



(not my image... I hope the original owner doesn't mind my posting)


I believe Pat had the pencil in one of his trays but I did not see the pen.

Fun thread; it makes me want to expand my range but that is the last thing I need .

/Woody

[david i]

I only have a few Tuckies but I have one pen to add that I don't think I've seen represented yet:



(not my image... I hope the original owner doesn't mind my posting)

SNIP

/Woody

Hi Woody,

Believe the Triumph Autograph Tuckaway had not been shown yet. I have probably 250+ 1940's pens lying about at the moment, but no war-era Auto Tucky. Nice find.

regards

david

[matt]

Lady II, the tuckaway version of the Sovereign. On the left, striped section/visulated barrel in 5 colors, on the right 2, examples with opaque barrel/internal tube filler. The brown one on the right has the white dot on the end of the cap.

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Matt,

Are you sure the brown pen with dot on the top of the cap has an internal filler tube? My experience with pens from this era with dot on the top of the cap, opaque barrel and visulated section don't have the internal tube. Gerry Berg made a post about these pens and called them hybrids. I don't have any Tuckies of this type to check but all my Triumph vac-fillers with these features are without the internal tube.

/Woody

I'll check. Think I have 2-3 different models w/ the white dot on top. Maybe that's why the white dot is on the top?

[JonSzanto]

Just poking in to offer thanks to all for this thread. When I became fascinated earlier this year by the Tuckaway line, I was sure it wasn't something that was taken seriously. I can see I was seriously wrong, and I'm loving the displays of all these little gems.

[matt]

Lady II, the tuckaway version of the Sovereign. On the left, striped section/visulated barrel in 5 colors, on the right 2, examples with opaque barrel/internal tube filler. The brown one on the right has the white dot on the end of the cap.

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Matt,

Are you sure the brown pen with dot on the top of the cap has an internal filler tube? My experience with pens from this era with dot on the top of the cap, opaque barrel and visulated section don't have the internal tube. Gerry Berg made a post about these pens and called them hybrids. I don't have any Tuckies of this type to check but all my Triumph vac-fillers with these features are without the internal tube.

/Woody

I'll check. Think I have 2-3 different models w/ the white dot on top. Maybe that's why the white dot is on the top?

Woody, the barrel on the above brown Lady II w/ white dot on the cap end unscrews to reveal an internal tube. However, I have 2 Tuckaway II's (tucky version of the Statesman) with white dot on the end - one has a striped section/fills in the barrel and the second one has a visulated section/opaque barrel. I cannot unscrew the barrel on the second, but the plunger makes a good "poof" - it may have been restored and the barrel threads sealed...or it may be a solid in-the-barrel filler. So, I dunno.

Edited by matt, 04 January 2012 - 02:43 PM.

[PatM]

Interesting discussion about the internal filler tubes vs. barrel fillers. One thing I've found/and been advised is that the internal filler tubes can be in scarce supply for repairs. I guess this is like a lot of the other repair parts for a wide variety of pens, but I've been sure to hang onto the internal filler tubes as I've come across parts pens.

Best,
Pat

[matt]

Tuckaway II, the ladies version of the Statesman. Left to right: Early pens on the left with narrower cap band. You should expect these to have transparent barrel stripes, striped sections and the longer nib of war time Tuckaways. Then, a green stripe P&P set with the wider cap band and the shorter 79 Triumph nib. The transparent barrel/striped section may be older than the white-dot-on-the-top cap; however the cap bands have matching engraved intiials. My father's 1948 high school graduation black Tuckaway. And lastly, another green with visulated section, opaque barrel, and white dot on the top.

This closeup of the above black pen illustrates what I said earlier about the internally painted barrels with short visulated barrel stripes starting out with full transparent barrel stripes. The horizontal pairs of lines are the edges of the black stripes. I think the extra line below the 1000 and through the clear stripe is the seam in the barrel.

Edited by matt, 09 January 2012 - 10:52 PM.

[PatM]

Matt -

To me the neatest part of what you just posted is your father's 1948 high school graduation pen. Without knowing that, it was the pen in the top photo that caught my eye and I then went to your write-up to catch what you had to say about it - a very neat pen and great that you have it. Thanks for all of the posting but particularly for posting a pen with that kind of provenance.

Best,
Pat

[matt]

Matt -

To me the neatest part of what you just posted is your father's 1948 high school graduation pen. Without knowing that, it was the pen in the top photo that caught my eye and I then went to your write-up to catch what you had to say about it - a very neat pen and great that you have it. Thanks for all of the posting but particularly for posting a pen with that kind of provenance.

Best,
Pat

Pat, you are quite welcome. I used the pen some during college, had it restored by Father Terry and then Nathan Tardif, but the cap and barrel spontaneously unscrew in my pocket, so it mostly gets looked at. My everyday user is my mother's grey 51 Vac demi that my father gave her when they were dating, because it fits in all my short-pocket shirts.

Edited by matt, 10 January 2012 - 08:06 PM.

[matt]

The Sentinel tuckaway was a $12.50 pen with a metal cap and the medium length 79 Triumph nib that is also found on the Lady II and Tuckaway II. (The Valiant tuckaway was also a $12.50 pen, but has a plastic cap and a larger nib - larger only in the sense that it is longer, not wider, than the 79). To make up for my limited color range, I've shown how the construction differs between in-the-barrel and internal tube fillers. The disassembled pen came apart after a long soak in Rapido-Eze pen cleaner, although I think the packing unit at the end of the barrel was already loose.

The polished cap on the far right w/ the white dot inside a metal rivet may not be correct for this pen (since there are early Forticel-era metal cap pens that still have the white dot on the blind cap), but the barrel is the late opaque type, has no white dot on the blind cap, lacks a price code, and has a 79 nib.



Somewhat related note: the full size $12.50 Sentinel is an approx 5" long pen also with a 79 nib. The $15.00 Sentinel Deluxe is about 3/8" longer and 1/32" fatter with the longer nib found on the Valiant. The full size $15 Crest and $17.50 Crest Deluxe also differ in diameter and nib size/barrel length. (That's how you can tell them apart on ebay or when there's no price code.) The full size Valiant is always the larger size. There are also $15 Tuckaway Crests and $17.50 Tuckaway Crest Deluxes. However, the $17.50 price-coded Tuckaway Crest Deluxe is the same diameter as all the other post war tuckaways, so I think what you got for the (Tuckaway Crest) Deluxe was the opportunity to pay for inflation.

Edited by matt, 14 January 2012 - 05:21 PM.

[Teej47]

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I just love exploded views that look like there may have been an actual explosion at some point. Neat shot!

Tim

[matt]

I just love exploded views that look like there may have been an actual explosion at some point. Neat shot!

Tim

No pens were harmed in this exercise! That was Fulz who blew up pens.

[matt]

The Valiant Tuckaway, like the full size pen, can be found in 2 cap band widths. As far as I can tell, the wide band was only advertised for the first year of the post war series. I found them more frequently with striped sections, indicating they were made early in the series, but Gerry Berg says he finds them in all the filler variants. The grey striped pen has a visulated barrel, short transparent barrel stripes, no price code, and a non-serif Lifetime nib, indicating it is late, but the cap is noticeably more worn than the barrel, which argues for a later filler repair by replacing the entire barrel. The narrow cap band brown pen has a non-serif, non-Lifetime nib, so could be a later repair or really late sale. The pen sold for $12.50, but has a larger (longer) nib than the "79" nib on the $12.50 Sentinel.

The wide band brown and black pencils have fully grooved barrels, same as the earlier wartime clipless Tuckaway - the pencil barrels are interchangeable between the two series.

[BamaPen]

At the beginning of this thread, David mentioned the Compact Cartridge Imperial of about 1960. I regard this series of pens as the logical successor to the Tuckaways of the 1940s. Here is a pen and pencil pair. Note that the pen has an ink-view window, unusual in a cartridge pen. There was another version of the line that had chrome or stainless hardware and no ink-view window.

[haywoody]

I added a few significant Tuckies to my small collection this year: 

 

 

The brown striated clipless was a buy-it-now on eBay with the 14kt band noted in the description and shown in the images. The clipped brown striated set was also from eBay but the 14kt parts were not noted but clear in the images. I was surprised that there was so little competition for the set. Based on feedback from showing these around a bit they are not so common. I'm curious if there are other Autograph Tuckies in brown, or other non-black colors, known?

 

Happy holidays!

 

/Woody

[matt]

The 1951 Sheaffer "Complete Service Policy" in the PCA Library seems to have all the identification charts found in the 1947 Workbook and is available to anyone with a PCA membership.  The 1951 continues to overlook the Triumph and Triumph Tuckaway Autographs (plus the military-clip Service Autograph, among others), but lists the full size post-war Autograph in black only for lever fill and both black and brown stripe for the plunger fill. 

 

The post-war Autograph Tuckaway is listed in black, brown stripe, and Forticel burnt umber.

 

Those brown stripers are amazing!

[haywoody]

Thanks for the info Matt. I like the earlier pens better in general but I wouldn't mind finding the burnt umber Forticel pen.

[Jos]

I have this Tuckaway first version that puzzles me. It has the threaded but flat-topped back end and there is no white dot. The pen came in its original Sheaffer Tuckaway (eg small size) clamshell box. The cap lip has the common imprint that includes "Made in USA", so it likely is not a Canadian variant. Has anybody seen this Tuckaway version before?

 

Edited by Jos, 27 March 2023 - 02:29 PM.

[matt]

Hey, the back end of your pen has the same blunt shape as the design patent!

 

Edited by matt, 07 April 2023 - 04:00 AM.