How sad to see those prototypes go

Where is the pen list? I see a few pens that i like, but dont know if i can afford

Wow! Thanks so much for these very information photo's!

I believe not. Any pen that doesn't have a hallmark and that doesn't have any markings, usually indicates its gold-filled which is just gold plating. This should be indicated right below the section. Did the pen look like this?

http://cgi.ebay.com/...cvip=true&rt=nc

I believe not. Any pen that doesn't have a hallmark and that doesn't have any markings, usually indicates its gold-filled which is just gold plating. This should be indicated right below the section. Did the pen look like this?

http://cgi.ebay.com/...cvip=true&rt=nc

Well, that tops my retail restored warranted price at Vacumania. Time to raise prices?

The original question has couple issues in play.

First, yes, a gold hallmarked cap should have a gold hallmarked barrel of same pattern, if barrel is to be gold. But, there are cases in which a gold cap can match to plain plastic barrel, and other cases in which it won't.

Lacking further info about pen, we have couple eras in play. 1942-5 War Years, 1945-1950 post war (with some tweaks along way), 1951 Thin Model Touchdown, and 1952-9 Snorkel, all of which can give us a Triumph nib and hallmarked gold cap.

War Years and Post War pens could be had all gold (Masterpiece) or gold-cap-on-black-barrel (Crest Masterpiece). There were also gold-filled caps but NO gold filled barrels that era.

SNork and TM TD did see Masterpiece (gold top and bottom), Triumph (gold filled top and bottom). Unlike 1940's, the Snork did NOT have Crest Masterpiece (solid gold cap but plastic barrel), and...I'd have to double check catalogue to see if TM TD (1951 only) had Crest Masterpiece.

All the 1940's, TM TD (1951) and Snorkel did have plain ]Crest (gold filled cap on certain plastic barrels).

Not sure this answers all possible questions, but I would NOT buy a hallmarked gold cap on a non-hallmarked different pattern barrel. If patterns match, then check harder for the hallmark as it might be there.

Too, I note that for solid gold Masterpiece pens, (top and bottom solid gold) at $700 you are getting into zone at which you could get one restored working from a dealer, though somewhat more for a really nice one.

regards

david

Here is a little summary of my two baby Waterman's that i have.

http://penspensandmo...s.blogspot.com/

Actually my passion has been of late to nice juicy flex pens ... I have acquired a few Mabie Todd and a couple of Eversharp's and have no clue what brand I should be focusing on ... Any help would be appreciated ....

Thanks

Scott

Welcome Scott!

If your looking for flex, the most well regarded brand would be Waterman. Im not sure if you have a budget, but a nice BCHR pen should cost less than $100 restored, and at least $400 if you want an overlay pen which would be restored. There are many exceptions to brand with flex, but Waterman's are generally found with semi/flex nibs. Also if your looking for a few path, what type of filling mechanism do you like? Lever, piston, button, sleeve,etc.

Nice little write up with my newly acquired Diamine Grape from Eric over at FP Geeks.

http://penspensandmo...s.blogspot.com/

Your photography is killing me! What body and macro lens...

Let's just say, he wasn't a very knowledgeable seller

Beautiful pen! Yet another to add to my collection.

Does anyone have information on a Parker Patrician Marvel mechanical pencil?

Wow, i love this pen! I want it.

Those guys at the FP Geeks are great! Now that I have done a few of those "video" chats! Right off the bat it became clear to me that both Eric and Dan have something really great going here.

Not only is their site informative, but entertaining as well. They bring a certain professionalism and fun to the trade/collecting by being very informative, as well as allowing others to have an opinion, without meaningless and spiteful retribution.

Keep up the great work Eric and Dan!

Greg Minuskin
greg@gregminuskin.com
www.gregminuskin.com

Its great seeing you on there as well. Its nice having a younger generations (such as myself) also see other younger people interested in this, not just all the attic dwellers that remember these from back than Eric and Dan though have a problem, they owe me money for all the pens ive had to buy for the show

Dont even get me started on the 10-15 you'd keep. I know that RHR silver overlay Waterman 20 baby would be one of them

Regarding this oriental pen, there was one on ebay that sold a few months back for under $200.

Hahaha,

David.... all i have to do is walk into an antique show, and one will be waiting (Check email...)

So i was talking to a certain pen repairer, one who has very rare pens ever month, and i was refereed to im by another pen person as he'd be able to do it. Lets just say the pen i need is very,very,very small and needs a new cap (there's a crack) a section, and feed. Well after a half dozen emails from the both of us, he stated a price which was just under $1000, which as a teenager wont be able to afford, and had this too say; "I now have an hour of my time into the job, going back and forth with the machinist and between you and I. I had estimated a total of about 1.5 hours of my time for the job (email exchange; receiving the pen; bringing it to the machinist; providing detailed instructions; answering his questions along the way; picking it up; calculating shipping and insurance costs; billing; PayPal or credit card fees; accounting activities; packing; getting the package to the shipping carrier). Because I didn't anticipate the breadth of email exchanges in which we would engage, the estimate of the time I would personally spend is already low."

Love those caps! Reminds me of a beautiful sunset

David,

It was just a bit under $1000, and i was quoted $60 an hour from my previous restorer, the restorer, and than this certain restorer states a $100 an hour charge. Well 8 or 9 hours to turn a cap, section, and feed on a doll pen? Thats quite extensive...

It was when i read his email, i felt like he wasn't interested in emailing me back and forth and i think he felt that it was a waste of time or something.

Thanks David,

I haven't send the pen out yet, but ill definitely call around. And other well known people who can machine BHR parts? Im not sure if Richard Binder can? Can he? (I know he's semi-retired)

I'm not particularly a fan of gold plated pens, but that really is a stunner. The patina is exquisite!

Tim

Are you sure Tim?

https://picasaweb.go...gCI7Y_4X-x6z0IQ

Ok, what the heck? I bought an unknown silver German pen 8-10 months back for less that $100, what the heck is up with this auction. I want it, but im not paying $300. This is ridiculous. Can anyone tell me what makes this soo special is someone's eyes?

http://www.ebay.com/...utorefresh=true

Just dreaming of a silver ringtop/baby/ minicollection. By the looks of things, i just might have a dozen by years end. But anyways i just stumbled upon this magnificent Swan with an aluminum cap. I want to know where i can find one, and what ive gotta pay.

Just dreaming of a silver ringtop/baby/ minicollection. By the looks of things, i just might have a dozen by years end. But anyways i just stumbled upon this magnificent Swan with an aluminum cap. I want to know where i can find one, and what ive gotta pay.

Hi Brandon,

It's a frankenpen.

regards

david

How have you came to that conclusion?

http://www.stylophil...5-05/05ring.htm

Correct, but i wanted it... but the price!